Organisations Futures des Armées Européennes

[Hip3rion]

Arf je vois toujours pas ce que ça veut dire.

[Philippe Top-Force]

Arf je vois toujours pas ce que ça veut dire.

Hyp3rion Roulier cargo appartenant à la Royal fleet Auxiliary RFA ,navire de soutien logistique.

Seb ,il est vrai que les britanniques vont être confontrés à des choix drastiques et stratégiques ,vont-ils disposer en temps et en heure de leurs 2 CVF ,la cible de 150 JSF peut fondre comme la neige ou vont-ils réduire le parc de typhoon au profit du JSF ?

Les avions de transports lourds tactiques ,les C-17 ont démontrés toutes leurs utilités ,les C-130 J aussi.

Les Merlins et les Chinook sont en dotation.

Ils font preuve de PFI ,la dissuasion pose problème à la chambre des communes ,réduire encore les effectifs semblent risqués.

[Hip3rion]

Merci

[P4]

s'il on envie de voir aboutir sans casse leur CVN il ny a qu'une solution. abandoner le JSF au profit du RAFALE!!!!! mais pour ça faut des c....... 8)

[Invité Rob]

Je ne sais pas qu'on a dit deja, mais ici mon opinion: RAF -Royal Air Force - 2015 Flotte de chasse: - 137 Eurofighter "active" en sept "frontline" squadrons, 95 Eurofighters en reserve (avec Brimstone, Storm Shadow,ASRAAM, Meteor,E-Paveway2/3, Paveway 4, ALARM, Litening III etc....) - entre 60 et 90 JSF F35B - 112 Tornado GR4/A avec Brimstone, Storm Shadow, ALARM, Paveway 2/3, Litening III probablement Flotte de Transport/Refueling/surveillance: - 5 C17 (peut-etre plus de cinq) (4 in service/1 planned) - 25 C130J (in service) - 25 A400M (ordered) - 15-20 A330 tankers (negotiating) - 12 Nimrod MRA4 peut-etre avec Storm Shadow (ce n'est pas tres probable) (negotiating) - 3 Nimrod R1 avec l'upgrade electronique "Helix" (tender open) Helicopteres: Chinooks: 34 (nombre aujourd'hui) + peut-etre 20-30 (tender) Merlin: 22 (nombre aujourd'hui) + peut-etre 20-30 (tender) pour replacer Pumas 2) Royal Navy: - 2 CVF avec 44 avions: JSF (36), Merlin ASW (4), Merlin AEW (4) - 8 T45 (6 "hulls" ordered) - 4 T45 "stretched" avedc TacTom pour le MDV - 17 en construction VT Cerberus ou un autre design pour replacer les T23 - 4 River OPVs (3 in service/1 being built) - 5 Astutes (3 ordered/1 long lead items ordered) - 3 Trafalgars (upgraded) - 4 Vanguards - programme MARS --> replacent le majorite des navires de RFA - 2 Albion LPDs (in service) - Ocean (in service) + LPH® (peut-etre) - 4 ALSDs (built) - 6 RoRos - 43 Merlins (in service) - 30-50 Future Lynx (selected, mais le nombre n'est pas sure) 3) British Army - plus de 300 Challenger II (cut) - 401-801 PANTHER COMMAND AND LIAISON VEHICLE (401 ordered avec 400 options) - 450 Warrior avec un nouveau cannon/turret - LIMAWS(G) et LIMAWS® (tender) - AS90 155mm (nombre cut) - Future Lynx (selected, nombre n'est pas sure) - 67 WAH Apaches - BN2 Islander/Defender 4000 - Watchkeeper WK450 (selected) - peut-etre FRES pour replacer Saxon, Spartan etc..... - un upgrade pour 1400 FV432---> peut-etre active armour de Rafael??? - Rapier, Starstreak,HVM air-defense ( 8) ) missiles

[collectionneur]

A condition que les budgets suivent :?

[Shuggart]

Pour les 450 Warriors c'est quoi le nouveau canon?

[scalp79]

C'est un canon stabilisé de 40 mm CTWS (Case Telescoped Weapon System)* * Désolé pour la traduction mais là je ne comprend pas trop la signification :?

[Shuggart]

C'est du bon ça.

[collectionneur]

Il s'agit de munitions telescopés :?: J'ai lue un article la dessus il y a une dizaine d'années.

Voici un modéle de tourrelle de GIAT que j'ai trouvé sur Google :arrow:

[Shuggart]

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2001gun/Leslie.pdf

[P4]

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1375491&C=europe

The MoD will refurbish 12 instead of 18 Nimrod maritime patrol planes used for detecting enemy submarines and ships. It has also chopped 145 million pounds out of plans to equip Type 45 destroyers now being built.

[collectionneur]

Quelqu'un aurait des articles en français sur le nouveau blindage "électrique" britanniques qui liquéfie les RPG et qui devrait équiper les futurs chars légers de la British Army :shock: Je viens de tomber par hazard sur cette article australien qui parle de ce systéme :arrow: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17764997%255E31477,00.html Cela fait apparement quelques années que l'on en parle, voir cette article de 2002 : http://www.dstl.gov.uk/pr/press/pr2002/01-07-02.htm

[Berkut]

Euh... Je sais pas ce qu'ils veulent dire par vaporiser l'ogive mais si c'est bien ce que je pense il faut que l'ampérage suive ce qui signifie que l'engin devra se trimballer un sacré générateur. De plus est ce que cela permet de stopper plusieurs projectiles successifs? Là j'ai un doute. En plus à faire mariner un tel courant en sandwich doit générer un champ induit proprement hallucinant, bonjour les instruments électroniques et les transmissions. Ca m'a l'air totalement fumé leur truc :lol: "Alors vous voyez, avant que la roquette n'arrive, le char explose! Comme ça la tête creuse ne le détruit pas!" :lol: En plus imaginez le toaster s'il y a une défaillance d'isolation :rolleyes:

[starpom]

C'est juste un sreenshot de Operation Flashpoint de troupes britannique, mais est-ce que quelqu'un aurait une idée de ce que peut être le nlindé léger à roues avec un canon de 20 ou 30mm sur la gauche ?? :?:

Ça me fait penser à une Daimler de la seconde guerre mondiale :shock:

[Shuggart]

C'est un Fox

Véhicule recce mais qui n'est plus utilisé.

http://users.linkexpress.com.br/damado/Equipment.html

[Invité Rob]

80 remanufactured Future Lynx, ce n'est pas mal, mais l'Army et le Royal Navy ont besoin peut-etre 150 Future Lynx (pour replacer Lynx et Gazelle).

UK close to forging Future Lynx deal

Contract poised to receive final go-ahead from MoD

The UK Ministry of Defence will sign a contract within the next few weeks for AgustaWestland to remanufacture up to 80 Lynx utility helicopters for the British Army and UK Royal Navy. The Future Lynx programme has already received backing from the MoD’s Investment Approvals Board and is now with ministers awaiting a final contract go-ahead, say industry and ministry sources.

The UK early last year confirmed its selection of the Future Lynx to meet its Land Find and Maritime (Surface) Attack requirements under a non-contested deal originally expected to total around 130 aircraft. However, plans to finalise the contract were delayed late last year, partly as a result of the December publication of the UK’s Defence Industrial Strategy white paper (Flight International, 20 December 2005–2 January). This supported the selection of the Future Lynx, but said detailed analysis was continuing “to ensure, among other aspects, its value for money”.

UK investment in the Future Lynx will benefit from key systems already incorporated in Super Lynx airframes ordered by customers including Malaysia, Oman and South Africa, while the platform will also leverage elements of a £750 million ($1.3 billion) upgrade to at least 30 of the RN’s EH101 Merlin HM1s. The Future Lynx will share touchscreen cockpit displays with the Merlin Capability Sustainment Programme (CSP) platform and the US Navy’s EH101-based VH-71 presidential helicopter, and could also later undergo the Merlin’s electrically actuated fly-by-wire control upgrade, says AgustaWestland.

The industry team behind the Merlin CSP deal has, meanwhile, provided additional details of the project, which will cover aircraft modifications between 2010 and 2014. A key element of the work will be to improve the HM1’s human-machine interface by doubling the amount of cockpit display area available to the pilot and by replacing the displays for the two mission operators.

The aircraft’s Selex Blue Kestrel radar will also gain synthetic-aperture radar (SAR) and inverse SAR modes and an increase in track-while-scan capacity from monitoring around 30 threats to potentially hundreds, the RN says. Speaking at CSP prime contractor Lockheed Martin’s Havant site in the UK last week, Merlin integrated project team leader Simon Baldwin said the MoD also has around two more years to leverage technology from the VH-71 airframe, potentially including new communications equipment.

http://www.flightinternational.com/Articles/2006/01/24/Navigation/177/204287/UK+close+to+forging+Future+Lynx+deal.html

[Berkut]

avant toute chose qu'il leur donne un FA décent... :rolleyes:

[Invité Rob]

FA??? What's that?

[Laurent]

FA??? What's that?

FA = Fusil d'Assault

= Assault Rifle ;)

Dans ce cas je suppose que c'est le fusil britannique qui est critiqué.

[Berkut]

Yep. Désolé pour l'acronyme, j'essaie d'arrêter mais c'est dur :lol: Le SA80/L85 est vraiment médiocre à tout point de vue, passer à autre chose le temps de concevoir quelque chose de "maison" (s'ils veulent du matériel britannique) mais ne pas garder cette chose inommable qui cumule tous les défauts des fusils d'assaut existants. (Y a que dans Rainbow 6 où c'est une bonne arme :lol: )

[Invité Rob]

Ah well nobodys perfect. :) If the SA80 is replaced I'd like the G36 for the UK.

But here's some interesting news:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,,1694750,00.html

Reid to announce new British troops for Afghanistan

Mark Oliver and agencies

Wednesday January 25, 2006

Months of speculation will end tomorrow when the government reveals how many British troops will make up a major new deployment to Afghanistan, it was confirmed today.

Reports claimed 3,500 troops will be sent to the south of the country as part of the UK commitment to help reconstruction and spearhead a Nato operation against the huge narcotics industry.

Last week the Ministry of Defence admitted the troops would be exposed to fresh dangers, including the threat of suicide bombers, when they took over the mission from US forces in May.

Today, the defence secretary, John Reid, told the Commons that he would outline the deployment to MPs tomorrow, though the final details were still being worked out.

Nato secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer told BBC News that a figure of 3,500 figure would be "not far off the mark"; a report in the Sun newspaper claimed the figure would be 4,000.

Mr Reid would only say: "The media speculation could turn out to be right, or it could turn out to be very wrong indeed". Up to 3,000 personnel from 16 Air Assault Brigade are currently on a major training exercise in the UK in preparation for possible deployment to Afghanistan. Mr Reid said his aim tomorrow would be to "lessen the uncertainty affecting service families in the wake of months of speculation about possible deployments".

The defence secretary told MPs he was satisfied the planned British military configuration was up to the task and that the development aid was "sufficient to offer alternative livelihoods and development if we are to tackle narcotics".

But he said he was not yet satisfied that Nato allies had committed the right troops to the mission. There has been opposition in the Netherlands to plans for 1,200 Dutch troops to be deployed with the British.

Mr Reid said he was grateful for the support of Dutch ministers for the deployment, but it still needs to be confirmed by a vote in the Dutch parliament next month.

Discussions with Nato allies would go on over the next 24 hours and British ministers would cover the issue at the weekly cabinet meeting tomorrow ahead of the announcement.

Mr Reid was responding today to an urgent question from Liam Fox, the Tory defence spokesman, who said British troops faced a "very dangerous mission" in Afghanistan.

The UK announced in 2004 that it would take over control of Nato's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan from May this year until February 2007. British general, Sir David Richards, will command the Kabul-based force.

Britain is also expected to lead a new provincial reconstruction team based at Lashgar Gah in the southern province of Helmand, with the task of enabling Afghan authorities to establish control over the area.

Helmand has been the centre of some of the fiercest insurgency against the Afghan administration in recent months.

US units in the area have fallen victim to suicide bombs on a number of occasions. After the handover, the US troops will concentrate on looking for al-Qaida and Taliban fighters.

Some MPs have expressed concerns about the deployment, which they fear could be hampered by conflicts over rules of engagement and rows between the US and its European allies over tactics.

Dr Fox said that when details of the deployment were confirmed he would seek "very detailed answers" about key issues such as the security situation, the current assessment of risk, intelligence about further insurgency, command lines and what powers of arrest and detention would be available.

"The defence of our national security and the construction of a free and democratic Afghanistan are noble ideas shared on both sides of the House ... whatever we do tomorrow in the statement or in the coming months, I think there is nobody in this House who wants to see Afghanistan handed back to the terrorists or to the Taliban."

The prime minister, Tony Blair, is hosting a conference on the future development of Afghanistan in London next week.

[P4]

faut faire plaisir a tonton samy pour le JSF. 8)

[Invité Rob]

A £40m contract to deliver the Anti-Structures Munition, a new shoulder-launched weapon which will allow the British infantry to defeat hardened structures such as buildings or bunkers more precisely and safely, and without recourse to artillery or air support, has been awarded to Dynamit Nobel Defence, Minister for Defence Procurement Lord Drayson announced on 6 February 2006. [...]

Link:

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EquipmentAndLogistics/NewInfantryWeaponWillDeliverMorePreciseCapability.htm

[Berkut]

Tiens... Je pensais qu'ils se contenteraient d'un AT4 :?: :?: :?: