Le Jack Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Bonjour a tous,Bush aurait promis lors de sa derniere visite en Israel d'equiper Israel de plusieurs escadrille de F-22.http://www.infolive.tv/fr/infolive.tv-22734-israelnews-teaser-20-05-2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvs Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Barak a officiellement fait une requête pour 25 F-35 à 80 millions de dollars l'unité. Il y en aurait à décollage vertical.Source : un autre forum sur le net :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g4lly Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Barak a officiellement fait une requête pour 25 F-35 à 80 millions de dollars l'unité. Il y en aurait à décollage vertical. Source : un autre forum sur le net :lol: Vu la vulnérabilité du petit territoire et de ses bases aériennes ... des F35B pourrait etre une bonne assurance... pour peut qu'il soit disséminer un peu au hasard. Ça décolle de n'importe quel parking ce genre de truc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arka_Voltchek Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Vu la vulnérabilité du petit territoire et de ses bases aériennes ... des F35B pourrait etre une bonne assurance... pour peut qu'il soit disséminer un peu au hasard. Ça décolle de n'importe quel parking ce genre de truc. Mouais, ont disais la même chose du Harrier. Mais le problème est le même : ça décolle de n'importe où, mais ça s'entretient pas n'importe où... @+, Arka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkut Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 80 millions de dollars l'unité Il l'a chopé où son coupon de réduction? Parce que je suis sûr que les brits, les aussies et autres vont vouloir la réponse également :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arka_Voltchek Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Et le coup des F22, les Japs et les aussies vont vouloir aussi pouvoir poser une commande.@+, Arka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvs Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Fin du ban pour les F-22 pour Israël ? US House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman said he was open to removing the restriction on F-22 sales to boost Israeli deterrence and indicated that aid to the Palestinians could be affected by a Hamas-Fatah deal, in an interview with The Jerusalem Post Thursday. The F-22 can avoid radar detection. Photo: Courtesy Slideshow: Pictures of the week The defense establishment has long eyed the stealth F-22 "Raptor" as a bulwark to Israel's air capabilities, but a US law banning its sale abroad has prevented Israel from acquiring the top-of-the-line plane. Israeli officials reportedly brought up the possibility of a repeal of the ban during meetings at the White House during Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's trip to Washington this week, though his aides declined to confirm the details of the conversations. "I'm a strong supporter of Israel getting all the material and equipment they need," said Berman, a California Democrat who assumed the chairmanship after the death of Tom Lantos earlier this year. In terms of dropping the ban on F-22 sales, he said, "I certainly would look at it." Berman, who visited Israel last month, noted that the House recently passed a bill to strengthen Israel's qualitative military edge in any US arms sales, explaining, "We're trying to lay a foundation for a tougher-minded evaluation of what assistance Israel needs." That legislation needs to pass in the US Senate before it can be signed into law. And any effort by Berman to drop the ban on sales of the F-22 - described in the past as based on protecting the US from the transfer of technology to the wrong actors - would have to be matched in the Senate. Still, as a leading figure in the House on foreign issues, Berman would be a key player on moving such a priority forward. Israel has been looking for further US support on a variety of defense measures - including developing advanced missile defense capabilities, acquiring smart bomb technology and expediting F-35 sales - with the Iranian nuclear threat looming. Iran was the focus of Wednesday's talks, with Olmert saying that Bush had answered many of the questions he'd had about the US path, determination and time frame on Iran. He told reporters after meeting with Bush in the Oval Office that "every day we are making real strides towards dealing with this problem more effectively." Iran was also on the agenda of meetings Olmert held with the US Senate leadership Thursday afternoon before his return to Israel later in the day. Also discussed were Syria and Lebanon, peace talks with the Palestinians, and how to deal with Hamas and the Gaza Strip. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas's reopening of national unity talks with Hamas could change that equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandreVBCI Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Un nouvel avion d'entrainement pour Israél : http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/israel-issues-rfi-for-new-trainer-aircraft-updated-01525/Il faut bien trouver un remplacant du vieux Fouga Magister ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris. Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Un nouvel avion d'entrainement pour Israél : http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/israel-issues-rfi-for-new-trainer-aircraft-updated-01525/ Il faut bien trouver un remplacant du vieux Fouga Magister ! c'est marrant, le choix ne m'étonne même pas. lol après la suisse et singapour, israél devriendrait-il le troisième pays disposant d'une force aérienne moderne a avoir choisi l'option 100% turboprops pour l'entrainement ? Singapour ayant commandé des PC-21 pour l'entrainement avancé et la suisse venant de basculer sa "fighter school" sur PC-21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pif Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Sauf erreur, l'IAF a toujours un stock de T-4 et A-4 Skyhawk utilisés jusqu'à présent en complément des Fouga pour compléter la formation de ses élèves-pilotes de chasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvs Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Sauf erreur, l'IAF a toujours un stock de T-4 et A-4 Skyhawk utilisés jusqu'à présent en complément des Fouga pour compléter la formation de ses élèves-pilotes de chasse. C'est exact. La formation sur Skyhawk passe après celle sur Fouga. Ceci dit le Fouga servira enocre pour la patrouille acrobatique locale. Ils ont même été vus lors des dernières festivités pour les 60 ans d'indépendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pif Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Belle longévité pour le Fouga/Tzukit.Ceci étant, s'agit-il des Fouga d'origine (achetés neufs en France ou d'occasion auprès le la Luftwaffe) améliorés par la suite, ou d'avions fabriqués plus récemment par IAI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvs Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Belle longévité pour le Fouga/Tzukit. Ceci étant, s'agit-il des Fouga d'origine (achetés neufs en France ou d'occasion auprès le la Luftwaffe) améliorés par la suite, ou d'avions fabriqués plus récemment par IAI? Ils ont reçu des exemplaires il me semble, et après ils en ont construit localement. Et ils ont subi pas mal de modifications par la suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvs Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Les israéliens pourraient acheter 9 C130J. WASHINGTON --- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Israel of C-130J-30 Aircraft as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $1.9 billion. The Government of Israel has requested a possible sale of: --9 Lockheed Martin C-130J-30 United States Air Force (USAF) baseline aircraft including USAF baseline equipment and Block 7.0 Software --6 Rolls Royce AE 2100D3 spare engines --9 AN/AAR-47 Missile Warning Systems (includes three spares) --9 AN/ALR-56M Advanced Radar Warning Receivers (includes three spares) --9 AN/ALE-47 Counter-Measures Dispensing Systems (includes three spares) --9 AN/AAQ-22 Star SAFIRE III Special Operations Suites (includes three spares) -- 4 spare AN/ARC-210 Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radio Systems (SINCGARS) --10 spare Secure Voice Very High Frequency/Ultra High Frequency Radios --4 spare Secure Voice High Frequency Radios --3 spare AN/AAR-222 SINCGARS and Key Gen (KV-10) Systems --1 KIV-119 Non-standard Communication/COMSEC equipment --2 ARC-210 Non-standard Communication/COMSEC equipment --10 External Pylons and Fuel Tanks --5 Internal Israeli Tank Modification Kits Also included are spare and repair parts, configurations updates, communications security equipment and radios, integration studies, support equipment, aircraft ferry and tanker support, repair and return, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics personnel services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $1.9 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pif Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Commande confirmée pour 9 C-130J-30 avec beaucoup de systèmes et d'électronique embarquée... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvs Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Je savais pas où mettre l'info, mais la plupart des achats, concerne l'armée de l'air. Israel - Patriot Missile Fire Unit Upgrades WASHINGTON, September 9, 2008 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Israel of Patriot Missile Fire Unit Upgrades as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $164 million. The Government of Israel has requested a possible sale of 3 PATRIOT System Configuration 3 Modification kits to upgrade 3 PATRIOT fire units to Radar Enhancement Phase 3 (REP-3) and Classification, Discrimination and Identification Phase 3 (CDI-3). Non-MDE includes: communication support equipment, tools and test equipment, integration and checkout, spares and repair parts, installation and training, publications and technical documents, U.S. Government and contractor technical assistance, and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated cost is $164 million Israel - GBU-39 Small Diameter Bombs WASHINGTON, September 9, 2008 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Israel of GBU-39 Small Diameter Bombs as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $77 million. The Government of Israel has requested a possible sale of 1,000 GBU-39 Small Diameter Bombs (SDB1), 150 BRU-61/A SDB1 Mounting Carriages, 30 Guided Test Vehicles, 2 BRU-61/A SDB Instrumented Carriages, 7 Jettison Test Vehicles, 1 Separation Test Vehicle, 2 Reliability and Assessment Vehicles, 12 Common Munitions BIT and Reprogramming Equipment with Test Equipment and Adapters, 3 SDB1 Weapons Simulators, and 2 Load Crew Trainers. Also includes containers, flight test integration, spare and repair parts, support equipment, personnel training and equipment, publications and technical data, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics personnel services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $77 million Israel - M72A7 Light Anti-Armor Weapons (LAAWs) WASHINGTON, September 9, 2008 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Israel of M72A7 Light Anti-Armor Weapons (LAAWs) as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $89 million. The Government of Israel has requested a possible sale of 28,000 M72A7 66mm Light Anti-Armor Weapons (LAAWs), 60,000 M72AS 21mm Sub-Caliber Training Rockets, spare and repair parts, support equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics personnel services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $89 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 Israel - M72A7 Light Anti-Armor Weapons (LAAWs) WASHINGTON, September 9, 2008 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Israel of M72A7 Light Anti-Armor Weapons (LAAWs) euh... ça existe encore les M72 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvs Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 euh... ça existe encore les M72 ? Je ne sais pas c'est quoi exactement, mais faut croire que oui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Le M 72 est un lance roquette assez ancien mais qui a bénéficié de nouvelles commandes de la part de l'US Navy (source DSI?).http://world.guns.ru/grenade/m72law-2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhilleus Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 l'avantage c'est qu'il est léger donc portable, facile d'utilisation et d'entretienmaintenant c'est plus trop efficace face à un blindé moderne (deja qu'a l'epoque de sa sortie il avait du mal contre les PT76 vietnamiens)mais pour faire sa fête à un blindé léger ou en appui contre un bunker/batiment c'est moins cher qu'un AT4 tout en etant aussi efficace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamorana Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Il souffrait au Vietnam de son système d'allumage électrique sensible à l'humidité, ce qui obligeait à faire attention lors du stockage.La précision est assez limité aussi, surtout quand c'était des appelés peu entrainés qui s'en servait comme au Vietnam.Le concept en lui même est très intelligent, ça permet à un soldat de disposer sur lui d'un moyen antichar certes limité, mais suffisant pour immobiliser un blindé.Les russes en ont un équivalent, le RPG-18http://world.guns.ru/grenade/gl38-e.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronos Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 l'avantage c'est qu'il est léger donc portable, facile d'utilisation et d'entretien maintenant c'est plus trop efficace face à un blindé moderne (deja qu'a l'epoque de sa sortie il avait du mal contre les PT76 vietnamiens) mais pour faire sa fête à un blindé léger ou en appui contre un bunker/batiment c'est moins cher qu'un AT4 tout en etant aussi efficace Oui en combat urbain ça a tout son intérêt, forêt également. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvs Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Je reviens sur l'armée de l'air israélienne. ;)Je voulais savoir pourquoi ils n'ont pas acheté des missiles sol-air depuis longtemps. A moins que le patriot puisse aussi abattre des avions ? Et les vieux hawk améliorés, ça suffit aujourd'hui ?Mais ils s'en servent plutôt pour faire de l'anti-missile, leur dernière acquisition le confirme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 La Patriot est au départ un système anti aérien donc contre avion remplaçant du Hawk dans l'arsenal US.Les israéliens ont l'ARROW aussi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris. Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 c'est une arme anti-tank qui aura bientot 50 ans d'existance et c'est le sucesseur du Bazooka.elle est encore utilisée par plusieurs armées car elle a des avantages sur son sucesseur, le M136 (AT-4).ses avantages étant: masse beaucoup plus faible (moins de 3 kg pour un LAW, contre 6.7 je crois pour un AT-4), moins cher et plus compact.Bref, plus adapté pour détruire des cibles moyennement protégées. Elle est d'ailleurs utilisée en Afghanistan et en Irak par différentes troupes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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