Le Jack Posté(e) le 30 novembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 30 novembre 2006 Bonjour a tous je suis tout nouveau et pardonnez moi si ce sujet a déja été traité (mais j'ai cherché dans toutes les pages de armée de terre j'ai pas trouvé ) Voila je voudrais savoir quelques truc sur l'armee de terre israelienne surtout en ce qui concerne les soldats: - Combien il y a d'unités d'elite type golani,givati... sont elle forte? -De quel equipement ces unités sont constitué je veux dire de M-16...de ce genre de choses utilises-elle le galil? enfin voila j'ai envi de tout tout savoir avis aux connaisseur ;) Merci a tous ceux qui m'aideront Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Le Jack Posté(e) le 30 novembre 2006 Auteur Share Posté(e) le 30 novembre 2006 Je ne veux presser personne bien entendu mais j'ai vu que 19 personne ont lu ma question elle est trop difficile pour vous. je comprends c'est pas grave mais merci quand meme ;) Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Davout Posté(e) le 30 novembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 30 novembre 2006 Disons qu'on attend l'avis des spécialistes ! Les troupes régulières israeliennes disposent en général d'armes américaines surtout la carabine m4 et certainement de pistolets israeliens... Les nouveaux tavor sont peu répandus encore... Sinon, la mitrailleuse d'appui est la négev assez semblable à la minimi il me semble... Quant aux forces spéciales qui t'intéressent, je pense qu'elles disposent en gros des mêmes armes que celles des autres nations occidentales (avec certes des particularités propres à l'expérience d'Israel) http://www.israeli-weapons.com/index.html tiens j'espère que ça calmera ton impatience en attendant mieux ! [12] Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Le Jack Posté(e) le 30 novembre 2006 Auteur Share Posté(e) le 30 novembre 2006 Je vais regarder je te remerci de ta reponse davout Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Shuggart Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Passe par ici avant. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Le Jack Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Auteur Share Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Ca y est je m'excuse je ne savais pas qu'il fallait passer par la [50] mea culpa! Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
cvs Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Le spécialiste sur le matos israélien c'est galil10, mais je crois qu'il est en grêve. Sinon Oliv est pas mal non plus. Pour les unités d'élite, je sais qu'il y a les Golani et la S-13. Il y a aussi la toute nouvelle brigade 900, chargée de contrer, traquer et éliminer des membres recherchés par tsahal en cisjordanie. Il existe une brigade russophone qui monte d'année en année, de types qui ont fait la guerre en tchétchénie et qui apportent leur expérience à tsahal. Les résultats sont très probants. Après je connais pas trop les autres unités. Pour l'armement je sais pas trop (n'étant pas spécialiste en matos). Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Tapir Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Il y avait un article dans le Raids du mois d'octobre sur les forces spéciales israeliennes. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Kobalt Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Moi j'aime bien le Galil, c'est une bonne arme, simple et rustique, j'ai eu l'occase de tirer avec le modèle SAR. Culasse rotative style Kalash chargeurs 50 cartouches. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Bastos Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 J'avais compilé dans un fichier texte l'organisation de l'armée de terre israélienne. Les sources sont diverses: wikipedia, que j'ai essayé de compléter avec des sites anglophones (je ne parle pas hébreu..). Je n'ai pas revérifié les liens, j'avait fait ça début juillet. 1. Infanterie ** Givati Brigade ( גבעתי ) Battalions of the Givati Brigade: http://www.givati.org.il/english.htm - Shaked - Tzabar - Rotem - Palchan (engineering and explosives) - Palsar (elite reconnaissance) - Orev (anti tank warfare) The T'zanhanim brigade specialized in airborne operations, using helicopters and parachuting. The Golani brigade deployed the Achzarit APC, while the Givaty brigade specialized in maritime operations, similar to the US Marines. Today, all units train with helicopters, the Givati brigade no longer trains on amphibious operations and the brigades are much closer to each other in organization and equipment. While in the past there was some differentiation between the brigades, in quality, training and deployment, by 2004 they were essentially similar. The four brigades have the same organization, with each brigade made of three conventional infantry battalions; a Signal Company ("Plugat Heil Kesher - PALHICK", in Hebrew), and a Reconnaissance Unit / Reconnaissance Battalion (“Yechidat Siour / Gdud Siour – YACHSAR / GADSAR”, in Hebrew). http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/army.htm ** 1st Mechanized Brigade Golani Brigade ( גולני ) Battalions of the Golani Brigade: - Barak Battalion - Gdud 12 - Gideon Battalion - Gdud 13 - "Golani Buds" - The Egoz Reconnaissance Unit (a company) - The First Breachers' Battalion (HaBokaim HaRishon) - Gdud 51 CO Lt Col Yaniv Asor; Deputy commander: Maj. Ro'i Klein http://www.answers.com/topic/golani-brigade http://www.isayeret.com/main/guide.htm http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/golani_brigade.html ** Paratroopers Brigade ( צנחנים ) IDF Paratroopers are trained to overcome obstacles and minefields, to fight alone, or jointly with other forces and services in integrated combat. They can be transported by helicopter or dropped behind enemy lines, or be landed from amphibious landing craft. They can fight mounted on jeeps, or on APC's and can operate against armor, attack helicopters and infantry. IDF Paratroopers are a major component in maintaining Israel's security, and have played important roles in special and regular operations in Israel's war against terrorism. - 101st Battalion CO Lt Cl Ariel Yochanan - 202nd Battalion - 890th Battallion - 3 reservist Paratrooper brigades at any given time, consisting of personnel who served their mandatory service in the brigade, mostly in their 20's (aside from officers). These are most likely the most highly-trained reservist brigades in the IDF. http://www1.idf.il/DOVER/site/mainpage.asp?sl=EN&id=4&unit=14976&docid=22969&srch= ** Several dozens Special Forces and Counter-terrorism elite units (Sayeret Matkal) http://www.aseannewsnetwork.de/articles/content/s/sa/sayeret.html http://www.aseannewsnetwork.de/articles/content/s/sa/sayeret_matkal.html - Duvdevan Battalion http://www.emergency.com/idfduvan.htm http://www.pww.org/past-weeks-2000/Elite%20military%20unit.htm - The Bedouin desert reconnaissance battalion (a battalion made of Bedouins and Arabs) CO Lieutenant Colonel Waspi http://www1.idf.il/DOVER/site/mainpage.asp?sl=EN&id=7&docid=45703&Pos=1&last=1&bScope=True - Oketz (a unit specialized in combining dogs in operations, made of 5 sections: attack dogs, explosives sniffing dogs, tracking finding and persuit dogs, search and rescue dogs, dogs specialized in finding weaponry and ammunition) ** About 5 additional mixed unit battalions (Haruv, Shimshon, Nahshon, Lavi, Duhifat) ** 900 Brigade Colonel Eyal Nosovski http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/900_Brigade The Israeli 900 Brigade is one of the most recent Infantry Corps brigade commanded by the 162nd Division (Utzvat Ha'Plada) in the Central regional command of the Israel Defense Forces. The Designated Infantry Battalions (known as the 90s Battalions) were founded in the 1990s as an accompanying force to mobile infantry. On December 6, 2005, the brigade was formally established with the 90s Battalions unified into a single, regular service brigade commanded by Colonel Eyal Nosovski. Although the brigade is subordinated to the 162nd Division, each battalion is operatively attached to regional brigades in the West Bank Division. The 90s Battalions are seen as the first-strike forces in these brigades: - Nahshon (90, "Daring) CO Lt. Col. David Obermann http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahshon_%28IDF%29 urban warfare-trained in West Bank (Tulkarem) http://www.tau.ac.il/~reinhart/political/DontSayYouDidntKnowref.html (Friday, October 27 2000 02:23 28) http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/2226.cfm - Shimshon (92, "Samson" "Unit 367") Netzarim - once an undercover Counter Terror (CT) unit, akin to Sayeret Duvdevan, and today a conventional mechanized infantry battalion. - Haruv (93, "Carob") Nablus CO Lt.-Col. Arik Hen - Duchifat (94) - Lavi (96, "Young lion") Hebron - Netzah Yehuda Battalion (Haredi Nahal) ** Nahal Brigade (Noar Halutzi Lohem, initials of: "Pioneering Fighting Youth") ( נח"ל ) CO Colonel Roni Noma The Nahal infantry brigade is considered as a high quality unit and has good reputation. They are distinguished with light green ("sticklight") berets. http://www1.idf.il/DOVER/site/mainpage.asp?sl=EN&id=4&unit=14976&docid=22970&srch= http://www.answers.com/topic/nahal http://www.answers.com/main/ntq-tname-nahal-fts_start- - Karakal Battalion (a mixed battalion made of both males and females) - Herev (Sword in translation to english) Battalion (a battalion made of Druzes) http://www.kokhavivpublications.com/2003/israel/01/0301281504.html - The Nahal Regular Infantry Regiment: The Nahal Regiment was created in 1984 as a result of an increased need for infantry manpower in the IDF- a direct consequence of the conflict in southern Lebanon. The name Nahal was given to the regiment because the first battalion attached to it, the 50th, was the Airborne Nahal battalion, transferred over from the Paratroopers regiment (which was compensated with the raising of a new battalion). Two former patrol units, the 931st and the 932nd were also converted into infantry battalions and attached to the new regiment. Today, the 931st and 932nd are both high-quality, regular infantry battalions whose soldiers are drafted from the general population and serve a full three-year combat service. The 50th battalion, on the other hand, currently has a unique makeup. Half of the battalion's companies are made up of gar'inim, who serve two years military service and then one year civilian volunteer service, and the other half, including the battalion's veteran combat companies, are made of Bnei Mashakim LePikud, nick named Mishkonim. The Mishkonim are youths from kibbutzes and moshavs, who, prior to their military service were invited to and completed/passed a three-day gibush (selection phase involving various physical, mental, and sociometric challenges), and after their initial training are sent, most often within the first year, to Command Sergeants School. They also, as a continuation of 50th Battalion tradition, complete a paratrooper course after their advanced infantry training. The 50th is considered to be the IDF regular infantry battalion with the highest quality manpower, even more than the Paratroopers Regiment, as a result of the selection phase that the soldiers must pass prior to admittance and the fact that nearly 70% of its soldiers are qualified command sergeants, though only a few are picked to actually serve in this regard. The Mishkonim all serve a full three-year service and many continue on to Officer Candidates School. A fourth Nahal battalion was created in the early 1990s to serve as a special forces detachment for the regiment. Soldiers wishing to serve in this elite battalion must pass a three-day gibush, after which they are dispersed into specialized training programs for each of the three companies that make up the battalion: the Palsar (Plugat Siur, Reconnaissance Company), which is generally considered to be the most elite company (enjoying the highest budget, longest training cycle, and receiving first pick of the soldiers from the gibush- though, in truth, the difference in quality between it's soldiers and those of the other two companies is negligible), the Palnat (Pluga Neged Tankim, Anti-Tank Company), and the Palhan (Plugat Handasa VeHabala, Engineering and Explosives Company). The task of the battalion is to serve as a pathfinder force for the regiment, and to conduct special operations in accordance with each company's unique abilities. In the current low intensity conflict, the companies usually act as counter-terrorist forces, raiding terrorist homes and hideouts. - Shaham Battalion (931 "granite") CO Lt. Col. Eran Makov http://peacenow.org/mepr.asp?rid=&cid=630 - 932 Battalion "granite" - 50 Battalion "basalt" - yahsar Nahal "Topaz" - Palsar Nahal "Chur"(SF) - Palnat Nahal "Gazit"(Anti tanks) - Palhan Nahal "Spir"(demolition) - Mutznach Battalion (Airborne) of the Paratroopers Regiment - Military service for new immigrants and non-Israeli Jewish volunteers ( מח"ל ). - Nahal Haredi (Netzah Yehuda Battalion) CO Lieutenant Colonel Itzik Gia, Jordan Valley This is a special infantry unit for Haredi Jews. The unit is open only for religious Jews and the IDF makes sure they will be able to keep all the Jewish commandments and laws (mitzvot). - Gariney Nahal (גרעיני נח"ל) - in the history, they combined their military service with the establishment of new agricultural settlements (called Nahal settlments) and the development of older settlements and towns (settlers). Today some of them still do that, but a large part of them are doing community service in poor neighbourhoods and help the needy instead of erecting new settlements. Many of Israel's kibbutzim and villages were founded by Nahal settlers, who also protected them. - The Nahal band - a famous military band known for its canonical Eretz Israel songs which have become classics. The band gave birth to many Israeli entertainment talents such as Tuvya Tzafir, Neomy Polani, Gidi Gov and more. ** Aliya Brigade (first organized in February 2002) CO Roman Rathner Immigrants who arrive in Israel after age 28 are not called up to serve in the IDF. This policy has prevented hundreds of men in their 30s and 40s from the former Soviet Union, with military experience fighting Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan and Chechnya, from applying their expertise in the service of their new country. During the late 1980s and early 1990s, over half of the Russian-Jewish population immigrated, primarily to Israel. Since the Jackson-Vanik amendment was signed into law in 1975, over one million Russian-Jews have immigrated to Israel. Some of those were Russian soldiers who fought in Chechnya and Afghanistan and today form the Aliya Brigade (aka Immigrant Legion) in the Israeli Army, a specialize sniper unit of 350 to 800 soldiers with previous experience in the West Bank and Gaza. Just three weeks ago there were reports that members of the reserve unit (Civil Guard) were volunteering to fight against Hezbollah and now they have reportedly been deployed. "We already proved our worthiness in Gaza where we showed our ability to destroy Palestinian snipers," said Roman Ratner, the founder and commander of Alia. They were recently deployed to take part in the offensive launched by Israel in Lebanon four weeks ago and have been operating since Tuesday in the Bint Jbeil area. ”More than 20 Hezbollah fighters have been killed in the Bint Jbeil area over the past 24 hours,” an army spokesman told AFP without explaining how the members of the Lebanese militia were killed. The primary sniper rifles used by the IDF are the 7.62mm Galil sniping rifle and the TCI M89-SR, which are similar to the Russian-made Dragunov 7.62mm SVD and would require little adjustment to transfer proficiency in one weapon to the other. http://macgirvin.com/news/15 http://www.sourceisrael.com/read.php?id=53 2. Arme blindée ( שריון ): Deputy Commander of the Armored Corps Division Lt Cl Itzik Cohen ** Ga'ash Brigade (Hativa Sheva in Hebrew, aka. 7th Brigade) Also known as the Sa'ar ("Storm") Formation, this is a regular amour brigade which is placed under the command of the Northern Command. It is the first armor brigade of the IDF and has participated in all of Israel's wars. The brigade’s fighting during the Suez War resulted in a breakthrough in how the army approached the character of armor warfare. Today, the brigade is equipped with Merkava Mk.4 tanks. ** Barak Armored Brigade (ex 18th, ex 45th, aka. 188th Brigade) http://www.tanksim.com/topic11.htm Also known as the Barak ("Lightning") Formation, it is a regular armor brigade which is placed under the command of the Northern Command. Starting with the Six Day War, the brigade participated in all of Israel’s wars. During the Yom Kippur War, the brigade was the first line of defense in the first day of the war at the Southern Golan, and saw almost all of its officers killed in action. It was the last armor brigade to use the Centurion tank, converted into Merkava Mk.3/Mk.4 tanks in 1992. - 53rd battalion - 71st battalion - 74st battalion ** Ikvot Habarzel Brigade (aka. 401st Brigade) חטיבת עקבות הברזל Hat'ivat I'kvot Ha'Barzel Also known as the Ikvot Habarzel ("Heels of Steel") Formation, this is an armor brigade created in 1968 in order to control the Suez Canal line. During the Yom Kippur War, it faced the first line of attack in the canal and suffered heavy losses. During the 1982 Lebanon War, it fought in the Southern force and one of its battalions participated in the Sultan Yaakov battle. During 2004-2005, the brigade’s tanks were converted into Merkava Mk.4 tanks. - 9th Eseth Battalion (עשת) - 46th Shelach Battalion (שלח) - 52nd Habokyim Harishonyim Battalion (הבוקעים הראשונים) CO Lt.-Col. Guy Kabili - Seara Battalion (סערה) --> --> 91st Duhifat Infantry Battalion - 601st Engineering Battalion - 402nd Artillery Battalion - Sayeret 401 3. Artillerie ( תותחנים ): CO Brigadier-General Lawrence Mu’alam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Artillery_Corps ** consisting of three brigades - The Pillar of Fire Formation . Drakon ("Dragon") Battalion . Reshef ("Flash") Battalion . reserve forces battalions **The Golan Formation . Namer ("Tiger") Battalion . Keren ("Beam" or "Ray") Battalion CO Lt.-Col. Avi Mano . Ra'am Battalion (MLRS "Thunder") . reserve battalions ** The Kela David Formation . Meytar (“String”) unit, a special unit of the corps . radar and navigation networks 4. Génie combat ( הנדסה קרבית ): CO Brigadier General Shimon Daniel ** Israeli Engineering Corps (consisting of a regular brigade and additional smaller units) ** Engineering company פלחה"ן in each infantry brigade. - Lahav Battalion http://experts.about.com/e/i/is/Israel_Defense_Forces.htm http://www1.idf.il/DOVER/site/homepage.asp?clr=1&sl=EN&id=-8888&force=1 http://www.answers.com/topic/israel-defense-forces http://www.answers.com/topic/paratroopers-brigade En ce qui concerne les unités spéciales, j'avais trouvé ceci (je n'ai pas actualisé avec les infos données dans le RAIDS du mois de novembre..) Israel Army Special Ops Units: * Infantry Units - Sayeret Golani (aka "Palsar Golani") the recon unit attached to 1st Brigade Golani - Sayeret Givati (aka "Palsar Givati") - Sayeret Nahal (aka "Palsar Nahal") - Sayeret T'zanhanim (aka "Palsar T'zanhanim") Paratroopers Brigade ? - Sayeret Egoz ("Unit 62"1) Counter guerrilla ops attached to the Golani Brigade - Sayeret Duvdevan ("Unit 217") - Undercover Counter Terror unit for the Territories. - Force 100 - Military Police Special Emergency Response Team (SERT). - Sayeret Egoz ("Unit 621") - Counter Guerrilla unit. * Armored Corps - 7th Armored Brigade - 401th Armored Brigade - Palsar 7 aka Sayeret Shirion 7 - Palsar 500 aka Sayeret Shirion 500 (now Sayeret 401) - Sayeret Maglan (aka "Unit 212") Long range anti-tank unit (missiles warfare) * Combat Engineers http://www.geocities.com/mazanga9/IDF/CombatEngineeringCorps.htm# - Sayeret Yahalom (ex-Sayeret Yael) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayeret_Yahalom . Sayeret ("Ibex") Special demolition unit, long range sabotages missions, counter terror, maritime engineering. . Sayeret Yachsap ("EOD Unit") Long range bomb disposal group, removing landmines, missile's warheads, handling NBC threats, bomb disposal. . Sayeret Samoor ("Weasel") A unit whose expertise is finding and destroying smuggling tunnels and hidden weapon caches. - Unit YAMAM (Yechida Mishtartit Meyuchedet) Special police unit, counter terror and hostage rescue unit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAMAM - Unit YAMAS - Counter Terror undercover unit. - Unit YAMAG - Tactical Counter Crime and Counter Terror rapid deployment unit. * Intelligence Corps - Sayeret Matkal (aka "The Unit" or "Unit 262" or "Unit 767") The IDF primary intelligence gathering and SF unit, General Staff deep recon unit."Who Dares Wins" - Unit 269 (Part of Matkal but with specialized underwater ops and CT training) - The Shahaf Field Intelligence Battalion - Shabak (aka "Shin Bet") General Security Service http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabak * Marine - Shayetet 13 (aka S'13) - Naval Commando unit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shayetet-13 - Sayetet Slosh-Esrai (Flotilla 13) * Air Force - Sayeret Shaldag (Kingfisher aka "Unit 5101") - Air Force SF support helo squadron - Airborne Rescue And Evacuation Unit (aka "Unit 669") - the IAF CSAR unit. Note: According to Ynet news it was Shaldag and Mal'kal that took part in the Baalbek raid. http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2003%20Opinion%20Editorials/October/6%200/Global%20Perspective%20on%20Israel%20Military%20Part%201%20Richard%20Melson.htm Global Perspective on Israel Military: Part 1 http://www.securitywatchtower.com/archives/003858iaf_continues_to_pound_hezbollah_may_broaden_target_list.html Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
cvs Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 je rajoute une unité appelée lotar que j'ai découvert par hasard tout à l'heure sur un forum anglo-saxon. Et hop copier-collé avec la vidéo qui va avec (en hébreu, malheureusement mais en gros ça dit ce qu'il y a écrit en-dessous) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsGPI_t-wko The Israeli city of Eilat is unique: it is the most south located city in Israel and is Israel's primary resort city. The large number of high value tourist oriented targets in the city, and the proximity to the Israeli-Jordanian border, makes the city prone and vulnerable to terror attacks. As the city is located remotely from any Israeli Defense Force (IDF) or civilian Counter Terror (CT) unit, the need rose of nearby CT unit. So in 1978 the IDF formed LOTAR Eilat ("Eilat Counter Terror" in Hebrew) - a CT and hostage rescue outfit located in the city. As the chances for a scenario requiring the unit's actual deployment are relatively low, there was no need to form the unit as a mandatory service unit, and it was built as an all reserve one, similar to Unit Alpinistim, the IDF extreme weather SF unit. Originally, the unit was formed as an Engagement Unit, hence a rapid deployment unit that can provide first response until a better equipped larger Takeover unit will arrive and carry out the hostage rescue raid. However, in 1995, due to the unit's successful track record over the years, it was decided to promote it to the rare Takeover Unit status, together with the IDF two other Takeover Units - Shayetet 13 (the IDF Naval Commando unit) and Sayeret MATKAL (Israel's elite commando unit). Today, LOTAR Eilat is the only IDF unit which specializes in rescuing hostages. In all other IDF CT capable units, including Sayeret MATKAL and Shayetet 13, CT and hostage rescue are only secondary capabilities. Even in the second all CT IDF unit - Sayeret Duvdevan (the IDF undercover CT unit) - the focus is on undercover CT applications rather then on hostage rescue as in LOTAR Eilat. As such, the unit is considered as the most experienced and the capable IDF hostage rescue unit. In the entire Israeli SF community, including both civilian and military units, LOTAR Eilat is the second most capable hostage rescue after the fourth Israeli Takeover unit - Unit YAMAM (the Israeli Border Guard elite SWAT type unit). The unit also functions as a Special Forces (SF) commando unit During wartime. Training: The unit's operators are reserve personnel who live in the city of Eilat or in the nearby Kibbutzim. Some of them had already undergone a CT course during their mandatory service. However, most of them undergone the CT course upon acceptance to the unit and then received additional inner unit training. While a reserve unit, the unit's personnel train intensely, almost on a daily basis. A major focus is placed on storming large hotels and this kind of scenario, requiring special expertise, is one of the reasons for the unit's unique Takeover status. Unlike the IDF CT units, whose personnel serve only three years mandatory service, the operators in LOTAR Eilat serve for many years, much like in the Israeli civilian SF units. The unit is well renown by its snipers, which are considered to be among the finest in the Israeli SF community. In order to become a sniper in the unit, one must first serve few years as a regular assault/entry operator and only then, after the operator demonstrated his skills, he can apply for a sniper position. The unit trains both independently and with Israel other Takeover units. Since there is an international harbor in the city, the unit also conducts frequent joint training with Shayetet 13. If such a scenario occurs, involving hostage rescue onboard a maritime vessel, the unit will act as an Engagement Unit as Shayetet 13 is the only Israeli unit allow to carry out maritime Takeover raids. The unit trains closely with Unit YAMAM and share techniques and equipment. The two units focus on joint operations as they will need to work together if a large-scale hostage rescue incident will occur in the future in south of Israel, as they indeed did in the Dagestan Airliner incident. History: In 1987 the Intifada - the Palestinian uprising against the Israeli regime - broke out in the Territories. In response, the IDF formed two dedicated undercover CT units - Sayeret Duvdevan, which operated in the Judah and Samaria region, and Sayeret Shimshon, which operated in the Gaza Strip region. LOTAR Eilat worked closely with Sayeret Shimshon and had conducted many successful undercover joint operations. The cooperation between the two units stooped after the 1993-1994 Oslo Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, which was resulted in the IDF retreat from the Gaza Strip and the disbanding of Sayeret Shimshon. In August 1989 the unit was involved in its first hostage rescue operation. A Jordanian soldier, who crossed the Israeli-Jordanian border, entered Kibbutz Lotan and kidnapped a hostage. A LOTAR Eilat team responded to the incident, and conducted a successful raid on the house, killing the Jordanian soldier and rescuing the hostage unharmed. In September 1995, an Iranian airliner was kidnapped by an emotionally disturbed individual and landed at the Uvda Air Force Base (AFB) in Israel. Once more, the unit handled the incident successfully and after negotiations the kidnaper had surrendered himself. The Iranian airliner incident was the IDF trigger to turning the unit into a Takeover Unit, resulting in bigger resources and the authorization to perform independent hostage rescue raids, without the need to wait for a Takeover Unit to arrive. The unit was involved in another airplane incident in November 2000. A Russian hijacker took over a Dagestan Airlines airplane on route to Moscow, along with its 50 passengers, using a fake bomb. The airliner landed in the Uvda AFB and eventually the kidnaper had surrendered himself. The Dagestan incident was also handled by Unit YAMAM. Since October 2000, due to the recent Israeli-Palestinian clashes, the unit is also deployed in the Territories. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Le Jack Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Auteur Share Posté(e) le 1 décembre 2006 Merci a tous je comprend pas vraiment l'anglais alors je vais utiliser un peu google lol merci a tous Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Bastos Posté(e) le 2 décembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 2 décembre 2006 Je ne sais pas si tu trouveras grand chose sur les sites francophones.. enfin bon courage quand même. [28] Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posté(e) le 2 décembre 2006 Share Posté(e) le 2 décembre 2006 Le traditionnel Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forces_de_d%C3%A9fense_d'Isra%C3%ABl Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
cvs Posté(e) le 5 janvier 2007 Share Posté(e) le 5 janvier 2007 Les premiers essais du Tavor dans l'armée israélienne n'ont pas été concluant. Les recrues du mois d'août ont trouvé des problèmes à l'arme. Tsahal a demandé au fabricant de corriger les problèmes rencontrés. Pour être sur que c'était l'arme qui posait problème et pas les hommes. Tsahal l'a donné aux recrues de novembre. Et là même topo. Wait and see Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Le Jack Posté(e) le 5 janvier 2007 Auteur Share Posté(e) le 5 janvier 2007 Merci pour l'info cvs, tu aurais des infos par rapport au defauts du tavor? Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Shuggart Posté(e) le 5 janvier 2007 Share Posté(e) le 5 janvier 2007 Tu as des précisions sur le genre de problèmes rencontrés? Equilibre, chargement, alimentation, précision? Edit: pas vu le post de Le Jack [61] Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
cvs Posté(e) le 5 janvier 2007 Share Posté(e) le 5 janvier 2007 Tu as des précisions sur le genre de problèmes rencontrés? Equilibre, chargement, alimentation, précision? Edit: pas vu le post de Le Jack [61] C'était pas précisé. Je vais essayer de me renseigner avant de partir en week-end, mais c'est pas gagné. Ils parlaient des tavor devant remplacer les m4. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Le Jack Posté(e) le 16 janvier 2007 Auteur Share Posté(e) le 16 janvier 2007 Bonsoir cvs, tu as du nouveau? Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
GALIL10 Posté(e) le 17 janvier 2007 Share Posté(e) le 17 janvier 2007 tu est sur de ce que tu dis cvs? parceque cela fais bien plus qu'un an que le tavor a été distribué a des unités specailes d'israel, et certainement pas a des recrues. cela étant je sais que le magal avait lui des problémes,et que les officiers de police avait demandé au fabriquant de corrigé les problémes. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
cvs Posté(e) le 17 janvier 2007 Share Posté(e) le 17 janvier 2007 tu est sur de ce que tu dis cvs? parceque cela fais bien plus qu'un an que le tavor a été distribué a des unités specailes d'israel, et certainement pas a des recrues. cela étant je sais que le magal avait lui des problémes,et que les officiers de police avait demandé au fabriquant de corrigé les problémes. J'ai lu ça sur le forum de militaryphotos.net, c'est un israélien qui l'affirmait. Après effectivement, on peut discuter fiabilité de l'info. C'est vrai que en cherchant moi-même sur le net pour une confirmation, j'ai rien trouvé. Je vais essayer de retrouver le lien. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
GALIL10 Posté(e) le 17 janvier 2007 Share Posté(e) le 17 janvier 2007 je ne crois pas cette info credible , il existe plusieurs photo montrant des soldats de tsahal en opération de combat avec des tavor il y'a environ un a deux ans. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
lol94 Posté(e) le 5 février 2007 Share Posté(e) le 5 février 2007 Le Groupe science-production RIF de Voronej, dans le sud de la Russie centrale, vient de développer un lot expérimental de thermo-gilets pour l'armée israélienne. Le ministère israélien de la Défense a proposé à l'entreprise de fabriquer un lot de plusieurs milliers de gilets, d'un coût de 2 500 à 3 000 USD pièce, explique Sergueï Varlamov, ingénieur en chef de RIF. "Le climat en Israël est chaud et imaginez ce que peut éprouver un soldat par 40°C à l'intérieur d'un char ou d'un véhicule blindé de transport. Un puissant système de refroidissement est alors nécessaire. Mais il faut pour cela que l'engin soit équipé de dispositifs de climatisation. Cela entraîne des dépenses supplémentaires en énergie et, en plus, on y est déjà très à l'étroit. Voilà pourquoi on nous a proposé de concevoir un système foncièrement nouveau. Chacun des membres d'équipage est doté d'un gilet spécial muni d'un système de tubulures relié à un dispositif individuel compact qui permet au militaire de réguler au moyen de manettes la température à l'intérieur de son gilet. Au besoin, des gilets similaires pourraient être fabriqués pour les fantassins se déplaçant dans le désert. Dans ce cas, un dispositif autonome de climatisation à batterie, est fixé à la ceinture du soldat. Pour le nord, si nécessaire, on peut concevoir des gilets chauffants. Cette niche du marché n'est presque pas occupée et nous pourrions avoir des commandes d'autres pays chauds". L'un des axes de la recherche menée à RIF ces dernières années est la conception de différents dispositifs thermoélectriques dont le principe est fondé sur l'effet Peltier. Note : Jean-Charles-Athanase PELTIER, Ham 1785 - Paris 1845, physicien et météorologiste français, auteur d'ouvrages sur la thermoélectricité et l'électromagnétisme. L'effet Peltier désigne le processus d'absorption ou de dégagement de chaleur lors du passage d'un courant électrique par le contact de deux conducteurs hétérogènes. Le dégagement de la chaleur fait place à son absorption en changeant la direction du courant. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
GALIL10 Posté(e) le 5 février 2007 Share Posté(e) le 5 février 2007 intéréssante comme info Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Le Jack Posté(e) le 6 février 2007 Auteur Share Posté(e) le 6 février 2007 clair on arrete pas le progres Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
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