La Lybie veut acheter des missiles et systemes d'air defense britannique

[Invité Rob]

C'est probablement (a mon avis) le Jernas air defense system (nom pour le Rapier plus nouveau) et/ou le Starstreak. Blair a dit aussi qu'il a peut-etre plus de contrats de la defense.

Links:

http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/FO/scripts/siteFO_contenu.php?lang=EN&noeu_id=91

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/starstreak/

UK and Libya unveil deals on Blair trip

Tue May 29, 2007 11:32PM BST

By Salah Sarrar

SIRTE, Libya (Reuters) - Prime Minister Tony Blair hailed what he called Britain's transformed relations with once-isolated Libya after meeting Muammar Gaddafi on Tuesday and the two countries unveiled major energy and defence deals.

Libyan Prime Minister al-Baghdadi al-Mahmoudi said Libya would buy British missiles and air defence systems, in what would be the largest UK defence sale to the former outcast state since an international arms embargo on Tripoli ended in 2004.

British oil giant BP signed a major natural gas exploration agreement with Libya's state-owned National Oil Corporation with an initial exploration commitment of at least $900 million (454 million pounds).

Blair, making the second trip of his premiership to Libya, arrived in Gaddafi's home town of Sirte and was driven for 20 minutes to a tent in the desert to meet the veteran ruler, in power since he overthrew the monarchy in a 1969 coup.

"The relationship between Libya and Britain has completely transformed in the past three years," Blair, due to step down next month, told reporters afterwards.

Blair first visited Libya in 2004, sealing Tripoli's return to the international fold after it abandoned efforts to acquire nuclear weapons and agreed to pay damages for a 1988 airliner bombing over Lockerbie in Scotland, that killed 270 people.

Blair hailed the strong cooperation on fighting terrorism and on defence between Britain and the OPEC member state.

"The commercial relationship, as you can see by this huge investment deal today, is simply going now from strength to strength," he said.

BIGGEST EXPLORATION COMMITMENT

He said the defence deal would "bring the two countries ever closer together in cooperation in counter-terrorism, defence and of course trade and commerce."

BP said the agreement was its single biggest exploration commitment and marked its return to Libya more than 30 years after its assets there were nationalised by Gaddafi in 1971.

On Tuesday, Blair met representatives of families of HIV-infected children at the centre of a case in which five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor have been sentenced to death by a Libyan court. The six say they are innocent.

The Libya visit marks the start of Blair's last tour of Africa before he quits as prime minister on June 27 after a decade in power, handing over to Finance Minister Gordon Brown.

Blair will also travel to Sierra Leone and South Africa in preparation for a summit of the Group of Eight major industrial countries in Germany next week, when Africa and climate change will top the agenda, and to push for a global free trade deal.

Gaddafi said in March that Libya had not been properly compensated for renouncing nuclear weapons and that as a result nations like Iran and North Korea would not follow his lead.

Blair said in answer to question that Libya's rapprochement with the West had lessons for Iran. "In respect of Iran I've got no doubt at all that the situation is the same, in this sense, that the potential for partnership is always there provided the actions are the actions of partners," he said.

The West and Tehran are at odds over Iran's nuclear programme, which the West suspects is aimed at making atom bombs. The Islamic Republic denies seeking nuclear weapons and says its programme is aimed purely at generating electricity.

Mahmoudi added that Britain and Libya planned to sign an agreement within the next year providing for what he called exchanges of prisoners. He did not elaborate.

Link: http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL2835043320070529?pageNumber=3

[FRtpp]

tant que le petrole est LA....

[Saladin]

J'ai l'impression qu'ils ont tous peur des nouveaux avions Algériens dans la région...

[jeune]

Ce système est-il comparable à l'aster 15/30 ?

[Fenrir]

Non c'est un systeme de defense à courte portée: http://www.eads.com/1024/fr/businet/defence/missiles/groundairdef/short/rapier/rapier.html

Je le rapprocherai du Crotale plutot.

[general]

Donc sa fait ( S300pmu, Tor m1 et le système britannique) impressionnant !

[move][move]Surtout pour un petit pays comme la Lybie[/move][/move]

[Tiger]

Non pas vraiement... TOR M1 et S300 c'est pour l'Iran, là on est en Lybie, je sais qu'ils ont des SA6, et des SA2, peut etre quelques missiles russes en commande, mais pas tout l'arsenal que tu leur donne

Voici les caractéristiques du Jernas : http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/FO/scripts/siteFO_contenu.php?lang=EN&noeu_id=91

Je pense que c'ets pour rempalcer les Gainful usés par le temps, ou alors, pour les compléter en attendant le rafale...  :rolleyes:

[general]

Non pas vraiement... TOR M1 et S300 c'est pour l'Iran, là on est en Lybie, je sais qu'ils ont des SA6, et des SA2, peut etre quelques missiles russes en commande, mais pas tout l'arsenal que tu leur donne

Voici les caractéristiques du Jernas : http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/FO/scripts/siteFO_contenu.php?lang=EN&noeu_id=91

Je pense que c'ets pour rempalcer les Gainful usés par le temps, ou alors, pour les compléter en attendant le rafale...  :rolleyes:

:lol: je sais ou se trouve la Lybie voilà ma source

Russia to Supply Over $2.2bln Weapons to Libya

Russia’s state weapons exporter, Rosoboronexport, is elaborating a contract to sell weapons to Libya for a total worth of more than $2.2 billion. Libya that has purchased no armaments of Russia for over 15 years may emerge as one of ten top buyers now. The bulk of the acquisition will be formed by air defense systems, more powerful than needed for regional conflicts.

The contract for weapons delivery to Libya could be sealed already this year, during the visit of Russia’s President Vladimir Putin to Tripoli. The budget of the deal will exceed $2.2 billion. Russia is expected to pardon Libyan debt, and Tripoli will undertake to widen cooperation in fuel, energy and nuclear fields in addition to military and engineering contacts. The parties, however, still disagree about the actual amount of the debt. Moscow insists on $4.4 billion, while Tripoli acknowledges no more than $1.723 billion.

The sources say Libya is mostly interested in air defense systems – four batteries of S-300PMU-2 long-range antiaircraft missile systems and around 20 Top-M1 short-range antiaircraft missile systems. Moreover, Tripoli is willing to buy 12 Su-30MK2 fighters, 12 MiG-29SMT fighters and one or two submarines of Project 636. It is also ready to pay for repairing two guard-ships and a small-size missile ship that were supplied earlier.

For Russia, Libya will probably become the second country of North Africa in budget of military contracts. The leader is Algeria (around $8 billion), and Russia also supplies air defense systems to Morocco and negotiates the delivery of air defense systems and MiG-29SMT fighters to Egypt.

http://www.kommersant.com/

[Tiger]

Désolé de t'avoir répondu en ne sachant rien sur l'affaire, je ne pouvais m'immaginer de tels armement en Lybie...et encore moins que la russie soit sur le point de vendre 12 avions... snif snif pour nos rafale  =(

[general]

Désolé de t'avoir répondu en ne sachant rien sur l'affaire, je ne pouvais m'immaginer de tels armement en Lybie...et encore moins que la russie soit sur le point de vendre 12 avions... snif snif pour nos rafale  =(

=) Il essaye de se faire un sanctuaire inviolable je crois!

[FULCRUM]

Ouhla! Il ya un risque que le Typhoon fume un autre contras Rafale  =D  Faut faire gaffe, car apparament Blair n'a rien a faire des infirmiéres  :rolleyes:

[general]

En tous cas le réarmement Lybiens et conséquent il acheté pas de la merde comme matos.

[yakuza]

=) Il essaye de se faire un sanctuaire inviolable je crois!

pour quelqu´un qui a perdu sa petite fille dans un raid americain sur sa maison en 1986 on peut le comprendre  =(

[Invité Rob]

pour quelqu´un qui a perdu sa petite fille dans un raid americain sur sa maison en 1986 on peut le comprendre

Le pauvre Gadhafi.  ;/

Ouhla! Il ya un risque que le Typhoon fume un autre contras Rafale  grin  Faut faire gaffe, car apparament Blair n'a rien a faire des infirmiéres

Seulement parce que la presse francaise dit qu'un pays xyz va acheter le Rafale ca n'est pas neccessairement la veritie. Je n'ai pas compris le dernier pat totalement, mais je pense que tous les "leaders" des pays essayent vendre des armes. Peut-etre Blair est meilleur dans ca, ou les produits britanniques sont meilleur.  =)

[Berkut]

Ah lala les vils russes vont encore armer un pays qui ne respecte pas les droits de l'Homme..; Ouf, la Morale et l'Honneur de la France sont saufs  =D

[Extramusicaman]

ou les produits britanniques sont meilleur.

Je ne sait pas si ils sont meilleurs, mais ils en tout cas, et a mon grands dam, meilleures réputation

[Invité Rob]

Apres un an de negociations, le premier contrat est signe. General Dynamics UK vend le Lybie un system C4ISR. On parle encore avec le Lybie pour des autres chooses, comme de missiles britanniques.

LONDON, May 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited has confirmed that it has signed an 85m pounds Sterling GBP ($165m USD) contract to supply a tactical communications and data system as part of the United Kingdom's initiatives to improve economic, educational and defense links with Libya. It will provide communications and data handling capabilities, together with technical and training support, to the Elite Brigade of Libya's armed forces.

The program has been developed with the full support of Her Majesty's Government and is in accordance with both the UK's Defense Industrial Strategy and foreign policy objectives. It recognizes the international reputation of General Dynamics UK as a leading exporter of command, control, communications, computing and intelligence (C4I) capabilities. General Dynamics UK has already achieved export success of similar C4I capabilities with the Netherlands and Romania.

Sandy Wilson, president and managing director of General Dynamics UK, said: "This initiative has been developed with the full help and guidance of the Defense and Security Organization, Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform. It complements current business activities in Libya, and other opportunities being explored by European companies."

General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of General Dynamics NYSE: GD, is a leading player in the UK's knowledge economy and industrial base. Established in the United Kingdom for over 40 years, it employs around 1,700 people at eight facilities. A prime contractor and complex systems integrator, working in partnership with the Ministry of Defense (MoD) and other allies, growing key intellectual property, skills and capabilities in its UK research facilities and workforce, whilst harnessing world-leading technology.

General Dynamics UK leads a key MoD Defence Technology Centre research consortium and, together with a growing C4I export program, plays a central role manufacturing and developing technology to deliver Network Enabled Capability and ISTAR in the battlespace. The Company is widely recognized as a leading contender to supply and integrate the next generation of Armored Fighting Vehicles for the British Army.

More information about the company is available online at www.generaldynamics.uk.com.

Link.

http://sev.prnewswire.com/aerospace-defense/20080509/NEF02909052008-1.html

Libya Purchases Gear from UK Arm of General Dynamics

By andrew chuter

Published: 8 May 11:17 EDT (07:17 GMT)

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LONDON - Libya has signed a deal with the British arm of General Dynamics to equip the country's mechanized Elite Brigade with a tactical communications and data system plus technical and training support.

General Dynamics experience with Bowman in the desert helped secure the contract. (General Dynamics)

It's Britain's first major defense deal with the North African state since an arms embargo was lifted by European countries and others in 2004. General Dynamics UK puts the value of the deal at $165 million.

However, analysts here reckon that price tag could be just the tip of the iceberg if Libya eventually opts to equip other elements of its armed forces with the same equipment. A company spokesman in London confirmed that the contract had been signed in the last few days.

General Dynamics UK is the supplier of the Bowman tactical communications and data system to the British Army, and has exported similar capabilities to the Netherlands and Romania.

Unlike the Bowman kit, though, the system destined for Libya has been designed without the use of U.S. technology and is completely free from U.S. export licensing restrictions.

Although the U.S. government is normalizing relations with Libya, it still retains a ban on selling weapons.

The contract is the second major deal that General Dynamics UK has been selected for this week. The MoD announced earlier today that the company has been nominated as the provisionally preferred bidder to supply the design for the utility variant of the Future Rapid Effects System armored vehicle family for the British Army.

The company's Piranha 5 development has beaten out rivals Nexter and ARTEC for a contract that could potentially be worth several billion pounds. An announcement was expected in Parliament on FRES on May 8.

News of the Libyan negotiations were first revealed in mid-2007, when the company's name appeared in a joint communiqué issued by the Libyan and U.K. governments following a visit to Tripoli by then British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

European missile maker MBDA, the other company mentioned in the communiqué, says its negotiations with Libya are ongoing. Although the company didn't specify which missile systems it was negotiating the sale of, industry sources at the time said it was the Jernas short-range air defense system.

Sandy Wilson, president and managing director of General Dynamics UK, said the sale had been developed with the full support of the British government. "It complements current business activities in Libya and other opportunities being explored by European companies," he said.

Since the embargo was lifted, Britain has sold about $60 million worth of security sector equipment and services to the Libyan government.

France, Italy and Russia have all been heavily involved in trying to sell military equipment to Libya, ranging from warships to helicopters and combat aircraft.

Russia's then President, Vladimir Putin, was in Tripoli in mid-April, offering the Libyans a wide range of weapons, including air defense systems.

Link.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3518749&c=EUR&s=LAN

[phexo]

A quand les Typhoon en Lybie ?  :lol:

[scalp79]

Arrête Rob va y croire  :lol: