[Canada] Le Close Combat Vehicle

[Serge]

Le programme CCV après avoir été abandonné a été relancé. Les industriels viennent de faire leurs propositions à l'armée canadienne.

Ce programme est assez étrange car l'expression du besoin se limite à "un véhicule entre 20 et 45t pour travailler avec les Leopard-2. Bonne protection IED." De plus, les autorités disent vouloir prendre le moins cher!!!

Voici une série d'articles:

CLOSE COMBAT VEHICLE TESTING SLATED FOR NEXT SPRING

WED, APR 28 2010. DAVID PUGLIESE’S DEFENCE WATCH  

By David Pugliese

Defence Watch

Testing of the candidate vehicles for the Close Combat Vehicle (CCV) project will be done in April and May of 2011, according to a DND schedule obtained by Defence Watch.

The live demonstrations planned for that period follows the release of a request for proposals in the fall of this year. RFP evaluation will be done in March and April of 2011, according to the schedule.

The Canadian Forces will acquire 108 vehicles with an option for up to 30 more. The contract is scheduled to be awarded in the fall of 2011 (a slippage from the original summer of 2011) with initial operational capability (IOC) declared one year later in July 2012, according to DND officials. The CCV is expected to reach full operational capability by July 2015.

The Canadian Forces sees the CCV as bridging the gap between light armoured vehicles (five to 20 tonnes) and heavy armoured vehicles (more than 45 tonnes), coming in between 25 and 45 tonnes. The CCV will allow infantry to operate in support of the Leopard 2 tanks, providing the Army with a more balanced and integrated fleet, according to the Army.

As stated by DND, the CCV will provide a high level  of crew protection, incorporating mine blast resistance and  protection against both Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) and  ballistic threats. The CCV will incorporate a protected main  weapon station to engage and defeat the enemy.

The initial series of deliveries will include a minimum quantity

of eight CCV with the initial Integrated Logistic Support  (ILS) package, required within twenty-four (24) months after

contract award, according to information put out by Public Works on the government contracting site. The delivery of the remaining 100 vehicles must  be completed within forty-eight months after contract award.

Along with the initial eight vehicles, the  contractor will be required to provide interim support including  repair and overhaul and deployed technical support, PWGC noted in the solicitation to industry. The option  to procure an additional quantity of up to thirty CCV may  be exercised at the sole discretion of Canada within four  years after contract award, according to the solicitation. The contractor will be  required to provide long-term In-Service Support (ISS) services  for approximately 25 years to commence after the interim support period, it added.

Originally bidders for the CCV were told that they were required to provide what was being called a Risk Reduction Unit (RRU). Essentially, that was a vehicle that the Defence Department could blow up in testing. The testing was tentatively scheduled for April but that time period has passed and it is unclear if an RRU will be required.

Nexter Systems, the French armored vehicle firm,  is offering the Canadian Army its wheeled VBCI armoured vehicles for the CCV project. The Hagglund’s tracked CV90 from BAE Systems is also being offered for CCV.

Armored vehicle manufacturer Rheinmetall has still not indicated whether it will take part in the project. An announcement about whether it would take part in the project was expected earlier this year never came.

Defence Department spokeswoman Annie Dicaire has said that despite the CCV project being put on hold several months ago, the project’s delivery dates have not been affected.

[Serge]

Autre article avec la présentation du VBCI:

THE CONTENDERS FOR THE CLOSE COMBAT VEHICLE: LET THE COMPETITION BEGIN

 

MON, JUN 28 2010. DAVID PUGLIESE’S DEFENCE WATCH

By David Pugliese

Ottawa Citizen

 

 

The SOIQ (Solicitation of Interest and Qualification) for the Canadian Army's Close Combat Vehicle closed on Friday and although the government isn’t releasing specific details about which firms have indicated their interest, the companies themselves have not been shy in doing that.

 

DND says initial deliveries of CCV will be on schedule for 2012, with full operational capability reached by 2015. A request for proposals for the CCV project will be issued this fall.

 

Why a CCV? The experience of the CF and that of other nations in operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and other operational theatre demonstrates the requirement for a new highly survivable medium-weight (25-45 tonnes) armoured CCV, according to DND. “The threats of mines, Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), Explosively Formed Projectiles (EFPs) and anti-armour weapons have proliferated and are likely to be faced in most medium to high-threat missions,” the CCV project office contends. A more robust vehicle with both passive and active protection appropriate to the mission will likely be required frequently in the future.”

 

The Canadian Forces sees the CCV as bridging the gap between light armoured vehicles (five to 20 tonnes) and heavy armoured vehicles (more than 45 tonnes), coming in between 25 and 45 tonnes. The CCV will allow infantry to operate in support of the Leopard 2 tanks, providing the Army with a more balanced and integrated fleet, according to the Army.

 

Tracked or wheeled? DND says it doesn’t matter.

 

The project calls for the acquisition of 108 CCV (including IFV and FOO variants), with an option for up to 30 additional vehicles, plus an associated long-term or through-life in-service support contract.

 

Over the next several days Defence Watch will take a look at the potential contenders. Today: NEXTER SYSTEMS VBCI

 

Nexter Systems, the French armored vehicle firm, is offering its VBCI for the CCV program.

 

Nexter officials will highlight its industrial benefits package by offering assembly in Canada of the vehicles.

 

The VBCI is 28-tonnes. The VBCI in the infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) version would be offered to Canada equipped with a 25 mm canon.

 

According to Pierre Tran, my colleague at Defense News, the VBCI production line, relying heavily on subassembly “kits,” is designed to be easily set up for local assembly in foreign markets. Nexter has been in talks with Canadian companies to assure a local supply chain for domestic production of the VBCI.

 

France has ordered a total 630 VBCIs for 2.86 billion euros, down from an initial planned 700 units.

 

Some highlights of the vehicle (info provided by the company):  

    * Ballistic protection provided the aluminium alloy hull with modular add-on armour (RPG, IED, top attack, etc.) or Hard-Kill type protection 

    * Mine protection 

    * Protection against IEDs (blast, fragments, EFP) 

    * Stealth (low radar and thermal signature) 

    * Soft-kill protection (infra-red jammer system, smoke-grenade launchers, etc.) 

    * CBRN protection

    * Air transportable by CC-177 

    * Exceptional manoeuvrability including in urban areas 

    * Crew comfort a complete infantry squad (spacious interior, meets international occupant size criteria, low noise and vibration levels, air conditioning) 

    * Easy embarking and disembarking 

    * High fire power

 

Of the 630 vehicles ordered by the French Army and more than 150 are already in service. Four versions are already in service with the French army: 

    * Infantry Combat Vehicle

    * Mortar vehicle

    * Anti-tank missile (ERYX) vehicle

    * Command Post Vehicle

 

Several other variants are available: 

    * Armoured Personnel Carrier (up to 14 soldiers)

    * Ambulance

    * Recovery vehicle

    * Workshop vehicle

    * Engineer vehicle

 

The Canadian-American Strategic Review notes that the VBCI is distinct from  other  possible  CCV candidates in that “its hull is of welded aluminum armour over which panels of titanium or steel are bolted (rather like a TLAV). The result is a 28t 8x8.  Several orders for 'Véhicules Blindés de Combat d'Infanterie' have been placed for the Armée de Terre by the French DGA but, thus far, there has been no export success.”

[Serge]

Dernier article du même auteur.

Ici, il insiste sur le cas du SPz-Puma allemand qui ne sera pas dans la compétition.

NO PUMA ARMOURED VEHICLE FOR THE CANADIAN ARMY CLOSE COMBAT VEHICLE COMPETITION

WED, JUL 7 2010. DAVID PUGLIESE’S DEFENCE WATCH

 

In a surprise move, Rheinmetall Canada did not put forward its Puma as its tracked offering for the Canadian Army’s Close Combat Vehicle project, sources tell Defence Watch.

The firm has put forward two contenders for CCV, one wheeled and one tracked.

The company’s wheeled offering is the 8x8 Boxer vehicle with the 30mm Air Burst Munition capable, Lance turret (see yesterday’s Defence Watch article).

The company, however, is not saying at this point what tracked vehicle it put forward when it answered the Canadian government’s SOIQ. An announcement on the specific vehicle is expected later.

However, Defence Watch has learned that the mystery tracked vehicle will use the Lance turret.

There could be a few reasons why Rheinmetall didn’t put forward the Puma. The German Army’s ongoing needs for vehicle deliveries could have limited the firm’s ability to respond to the Canadian CCV’s timetable. (DND says initial deliveries of CCV will be on schedule for 2012, with full operational capability reached by 2015. A request for proposals for the CCV project will be issued this fall.)

As well, the Puma could have been seen as too much vehicle for CCV’s requirements. The Canadian Army wanted level 4 armour protection on CCV. Puma has level 5. The Canadian Army wanted a vehicle in the 25-40 tonne range. Puma is 45 tonnes. Although Puma is robust in weight and armour, that also means it would be more expensive than other contenders.

Rheinmetall was concerned that because a 30-tonne vehicle is cheaper, it would stand a better chance than Puma in winning the CCV competition.

On comprend mieux la présentation du TPz-Boxer avec la tourelle Lance à EuroSatory-2010.

Photo ARTEC Gmbh

Ici en test pour l'Australie.

La totalité des articles de D. Pugliese de l'Ottawa Citizen sur le CCV est ici:

http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/defencewatch/archive/tags/Close+Combat+Vehicle/default.aspx

[Kiriyama]

Si ils veulent prendre le moins cher ça élimine tous les engins modernes style Boxer, Patria, etc. Il ne restera plus grand chose.

[Serge]

Le moins cher, c'est l'AMV de Patria.

[QuebecOne]

Les offres pour le CCV ont été évalué et les résultats ont été divulgué début aout: les compétiteurs ayant envoyé leurs dossier pour le SOIQ(Statement of Interest and Qualification) ont tous été recalé. Un nouvel appel d'offre va être lancé avec cette voici des pré-qualifications... Un ACAN(advance contract award notification) sera alors peut-être émis...

[Bruno]

Les offres pour le CCV ont été évalué et les résultats ont été divulgué début aout: les compétiteurs ayant envoyé leurs dossier pour le SOIQ(Statement of Interest and Qualification) ont tous été recalé. Un nouvel appel d'offre va être lancé avec cette voici des pré-qualifications... Un ACAN(advance contract award notification) sera alors peut-être émis...

Tous recalés ? A cause de leurs prix trop élevé ou à cause des insuffisances techniques de leurs offres ?

[QuebecOne]

le cahier des charges étaient trop rigide.  Tout les candidats étaient dans les normes demandés dans certaines catégories, mais en échouaient dans d'autres. Le cahier des charges va probablement être resserré pour avoir des candidats ''logiques''.

De toute façon quand un vbci, un cv90 et un puma sont dans une même compétition il y a un problème...

[Philippe Top-Force]

le cahier des charges étaient trop rigide.  Tout les candidats étaient dans les normes demandés dans certaines catégories, mais en échouaient dans d'autres. Le cahier des charges va probablement être resserré pour avoir des candidats ''logiques''.

De toute façon quand un vbci, un cv90 et un puma sont dans une même compétition il y a un problème...

Tu y as oublié dans cette liste le MRAV Boxer 8x8, et moi j'y vois que cette annulation permettra SURTOUT à GDLS de placer son Piranha V. ;)