[Chine] Force des Fusées (ex Second Corps d'Artillerie)

[Henri K.]

Quoiqu'ils testent, ça continuent...

 

A0058/14 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. B215: N4027.9E09724.1-NUKTI 2. G470: BIKNO-DUNHUANG VOR'DNH'.

20 JAN 04:30 2014 UNTIL 20 JAN 05:30 2014. CREATED: 19 JAN 12:58 2014

 

A0059/14 -  THE SEGMENT YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-MORIT OF ATS RTE B330 CLSD.

20 JAN 08:30 2014 UNTIL 20 JAN 09:30 2014. CREATED: 19 JAN 13:00 2014

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

La première fois que DF-21A est dévoilé publiquement...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

Il devrait s'agir de 3 bataillons (18 missiles DF-15B) de la brigade 815

 

 

Henri K.

 

P.S. - Ma playlist du Second Corps d'Artillerie sur YouTube : http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFFS_vayQZZNDwQcsx6hJiSecpWxe-QV4

Modifié le 27 janvier 2014 par Henri K.

[Henri K.]

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/AW_01_27_2014_p18-657278.xml&p=1

Henri K.

[collectionneur]

D'après les liens ci dessous, le planeur HGV américain devellopé dans les années 80 dépasse les 11 t pour seulement 2 a 3 ogives embarqués. Cela fait tout de même beaucoup a emporter pour un ICBM. On prévoyer alors de le mettre sur un Titan ou une Atlas, de très gros engins ou seulement 2 par B-52 :
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/hgv.html

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/forum/messages/5011.html

Pour la Russie, elle aurait mené un test en 2004.

 

Mais franchement, pour déjouer les défenses, il y a déjà plus de 45 ans, les russes avaient développé le FOBS avec leur SS-18 permettant un bombardement orbital tout azimut.

Modifié le 30 janvier 2014 par collectionneur

[Henri K.]

 

 

China confirms hypersonic vehicle test

Richard D Fisher Jr

   Washington, DC

 

China tested a hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) on 9 January, an event that may indicate it is closing the gap on the United States in this area after decades of research and development.

 

The test was first reported in The Washington Free Beacon , which quoted a US government source. It was confirmed by a Pentagon spokesman and China's Ministry of National Defense (MND), which said in a 15 January broadcast on Radio Beijing that it had conducted a test of a "new ultra-high-speed missile delivery vehicle".

 

The Chinese MND added that the "test is not directed at any other country".

 

Hypersonic weapons are defined as those travelling between Mach 5 and Mach 10. In 2011 India and Russia revealed their development of a Mach 7-capable Brahmos II, which may be tested by 2017. Russia is also working on manoeuvrable hypersonic warheads for its intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs).

 

China's HGV has been dubbed 'WU-14' by US officials, according to the Free Beacon . It was very likely to have been launched by a rocket and then observed by US surveillance assets, most likely satellites, flying a depressed rather than a parabolic or ballistic trajectory.

 

The Pentagon regards the WU-14 as being part of a weapon development programme and more capable of evading US missile defences.

 

The test can be viewed as a step towards China's ambition of developing several new long-range hypersonic strike systems that include scramjet-powered vehicles, space planes, and post-boost vehicle weapons based on HGVs.

 

Such weapons will eventually help China to form a group of systems similar to the US Prompt Global Strike (PGS) system, which was originally envisaged as having the ability to attack targets anywhere in the world within hours, even minutes of a decision to attack, without making any previous force movements. More recently the US Navy has outlined plans for a conventional PGS missile that will be deployable from submarines and is designed to hit any target on Earth within an hour.

 

In a 2013 study published by the US National Defense University, US Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Mark Stokes (rtd), a former assistant air attaché in Beijing, described the People's Liberation Army's (PLA's) programme to merge "air and space power."

 

Stokes wrote that, following the deployment of a precision-strike version of the DF-21 medium-range ballistic missile and 3,000 km-range missiles, the PLA would field HGVs "capable of intercontinental strike by 2020" and by 2025, hypersonic scramjet-powered vehicles "for global operations".

 

Stokes further said that in 2006 the Chinese leadership created a "steering group" for hypersonic and "near space" weapons, which led in 2008 to a dedicated effort under the First Academy of the China Aerospace Corporation. Possible systems under development include HGVs, scramjet-powered vehicles, turbine-based combined-cycle (TBCC) propulsion, air turbo rocket (ATR) propulsion and air launching for hypersonic systems. He also noted that future hypersonic weapons would be combined with another broad effort to create a system of surveillance and targeting sensors to include over-the-horizon (OTH) radar, and near space and satellite platforms.

 

Numerous Chinese academic engineering articles demonstrate great attention to researching future 'common air vehicles' or optimal shapes for what could become HGVs. For example, a November 2007 article from China's Journal of Astronautics written by researchers at the Hypersonic Aerodynamics Research Center of the Nanjing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics, mentions wind tunnel testing an 'NX-1': a scramjet-powered vehicle very similar to NASA's X-43A, which set a new speed record in tests in 2004.

 

ANALYSIS

China's leadership views its hypersonic weapons programme as a response to the United States' PGS ambitions. A stark description of the US threat was given in a 3 January article in the Chinese Communist Party's China Youth Daily , which asserted that the US Air Force's X-37B small space plane "can carry nuclear weapons for attack" and dismissed US denials that the X-37B is a weapon.

The article dismisses the possibility that the US may be responding to China's "anti-access" strategy, arguing that the US effort "came first" and is a challenge to the "balance of power" that justifies a response from "other countries", meaning China.

 

Washington has long regarded hypersonic weapons as a next-generation capability that is necessary to sustain a non-nuclear edge over China and Russia. US research on HGVs started in the 1980s and led in 2002-03 to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and US Air Force's Falcon (Force Application and Launch from Continental United States) programme to develop post-boost HGVs and powered hypersonic platforms.

 

The US has also sought to develop scramjet-powered vehicles through its X-43A, tested from 2001 to 2004, and the X-51 programmes, which were tested from 2010 to 2013. On 18 November 2011 the US Army successfully tested an HGV called the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon (AHW). None of these test programmes has resulted in the development of a deployable weapon as part of the PGS programme.

By comparison, China's pursuit of military hypersonic technologies extends back to the abortive 863-704 programme of the late 1980s to develop a manned space plane, which was intended to perform civil and military missions. The space plane programme was apparently revived in the late 1990s and has resulted in the Shenlong small space plane demonstrator, which could be developed into an active space combat platform.

 

The Shenlong may have made a suborbital test-flight in early 2011, with a Russian source confirming that it had been tested on at least one occasion. According to a 2006 paper on China's space plane effort by the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT), part of Shenlong's test programme may have included a small wedge-shaped test article, launched before 2011 to test materials. Such a test article could have contributed to the development of the HGV tested in early January.

 

China's HGV test also revives its practice of revealing new military capabilities in early January, which in the recent past have included an anti-satellite interception in 2007, an anti-missile interception in 2010, and the first flight of the Chengdu J-20 fifth-generation fighter in 2011.

 

Henri K.

[collectionneur]

Traduction officiel en français de "hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV)" ? Planeur hypersonique ou corps portant hypersonique ?

[Henri K.]

Une entité équipée de DF-21A en exercice qui effectue des manœuvres d'évitement de satellite, défense contre les armes bio-chimiques, guerre de communication...etc.

 

http://youtu.be/7zuzCz0f9-Q

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

Exercice de plusieurs unités du 2nd corps d'artillerie

 

http://youtu.be/2xg084DYPEw

 

Une brigade qui équipe de DF-21A en entrainement nocturne

 

http://youtu.be/rHn21v7EVt4

 

La 2ème partie de cette vidéo montre le génie du 2nd corps d'artillerie en train de creuser des tunnels. Le programme de Longue Muraille n'a jamais cessé...

 

http://youtu.be/SXhPCdHguxg

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

Entrainement d'une unité équipé de MRBM DF-21A dans la neige.

 

http://youtu.be/vvCPPqFgvvA

 

Henri K.

[collectionneur]

Un petit article indien indique le réseau ligne à grande vitesse à une ''immense valeur militaire'' permettant à la Chine de déployer très rapidement troupes et matériels (dont des missiles balistiques courte portée) à travers le pays :

 

High-speed rail has 'immense strategic military value': China

Press Trust of India  |  Beijing  February 6, 2014

 

 

www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/high-speed-rail-has-immense-strategic-military-value-china-114020600928_1.html

 

China is reportedly planning rail-mobile Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) using a separate system that is not built for high-speed travel but for heavy transport.

 

L'APL à t'elle est des wagons porte-missiles comme l'armée russe ?

Modifié le 9 février 2014 par collectionneur

[Henri K.]

Un petit article indien indique le réseau ligne à grande vitesse à une ''immense valeur militaire'' permettant à la Chine de déployer très rapidement troupes et matériels (dont des missiles balistiques courte portée) à travers le pays :

 

High-speed rail has 'immense strategic military value': China

Press Trust of India  |  Beijing  February 6, 2014

 

 

www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/high-speed-rail-has-immense-strategic-military-value-china-114020600928_1.html

 

China is reportedly planning rail-mobile Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) using a separate system that is not built for high-speed travel but for heavy transport.

 

L'APL à t'elle est des wagons porte-missiles comme l'armée russe ?

 

Pas à ma connaissance, car selon plusieurs études chinoises, la survavibilité d'un système de mobilité ferroviaire est plus faible qu'un sysème de mobilité routière.

 

Henri K.

[collectionneur]

Entendu. Donc transport de troupes et de matériel comme ailleurs - bien que je n'ai jamais vu en France des régiment d'infanterie aller faire des manœuvres en prenant le TGV :) -.

[Henri K.]

Entendu. Donc transport de troupes et de matériel comme ailleurs - bien que je n'ai jamais vu en France des régiment d'infanterie aller faire des manœuvres en prenant le TGV :) -.

 

En Chine, si. J'avais posté quelques vidéos montrant le transport des troupes par les TGV et les avions civils.

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

Exercice ECM / ECCM d'une unité du 2nd corps d'artillerie qui simule la défense contre des raids aériens.

 

http://youtu.be/dhqbZSdL3Sk

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

Exercice de support et de tir de plusieurs brigades du 2nd corps d’artillerie.

 

http://youtu.be/biSqGDw3OWY

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

La soufflerie à arc électrique de diamètre 1m, qui permet de simuler les conditions de l'altitude entre 20 à 100km et d'une vitesse entre 3 et 30 Mach, a obtenu le 1er prix du progrès technologique militaire national.

 

La soufflerie appartient à l'Académie n°11 du groupe aérospatial CASC et a été mise en exploitation en 2007.

 

http://www.spacechina.com/n25/n144/n206/n216/c639580/content.html

 

La fin de l'article indique que la soufflerie contribue au développement du nouvel engin hypersonique chinois.

 

Henri K.

[collectionneur]

Si je ne trompe pas, l'ONERA en a également du côté de Toulouse.

[Henri K.]

Plusieurs articles officiels publiés sur le site du groupe CASIC semblent suggérer que le développement d'un nouveau missile SLBM, JL-3, a commencé. Cela signifie le retour de CASIC dans ce secteur après avoir perdu le programme de JL-2 contre le groupe CASC.

 

http://www.dljs.casic.cn/n1605875/n1605911/c1665021/content.html

 

http://www.dljs.casic.cn/n1605871/n1605887/c1701391/content.html

 

http://www.dljs.casic.cn/n1605871/n1605887/c1704746/content.html

 

Pas de détail technique dévoilé, à part qu'ils parlent d'un moteur à ergol solide de diamètre 2,2m.

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

Certaines équipements d'entrainement du 2nd corps d'artillerie.

 

http://youtu.be/eDPD5ObUY_w

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

Entrainement d'anti-intrusion dans une base de commandement du 2nd corps d'artillerie

 

http://youtu.be/TKqaDRM3wBk

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

China Fields New Intermediate-Range Nuclear Missile

 

http://freebeacon.com/china-fields-new-intermediate-range-nuclear-missile/

 

BY:  Bill Gertz

March 3, 2014 4:59 am

 

U.S. intelligence agencies recently confirmed China’s development of a new intermediate-range nuclear missile (IRBM) called the Dongfeng-26C (DF-26C), U.S. officials said.

 

The new missile is estimated to have a range of at least 2,200 miles—enough for Chinese military forces to conduct attacks on U.S. military facilities in Guam, a major hub for the Pentagon’s shift of U.S. forces to Asia Pacific.

 

As part of the force posture changes, several thousand Marines now based in Okinawa will be moved to Guam as part of the Asia pivot.

 

In April, the Pentagon announced it is deploying one of its newest anti-missile systems, the Theater High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) to Guam because of growing missile threats to the U.S. island, located in the South Pacific some 1,600 miles southeast of Japan and 4,000 miles from Hawaii.

 

And on Feb. 10, the Navy announced the deployment of a fourth nuclear attack submarine to Guam, the USS Topeka.

 

Chinese military officials said the Topeka deployment is part of the Pentagon’s Air Sea Battle Concept and posed a threat to China.

 

Disclosure of the new Chinese IRBM follows the announcement this week by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel that the U.S. military is sharply reducing its military forces.

 

“How can [u.S. policymakers] possibly justify such reductions in defense spending when American forces as far away as Guam, Korea, and Okinawa are targeted by these nuclear missiles,” said one official familiar with reports of the DF-26C.

 

It was the first official confirmation of China’s new IRBM, which officials believe is part of the People’s Liberation Army military buildup aimed at controlling the Asia Pacific waters and preventing the U.S. military entry to the two island chains along China’s coasts.

 

The first island chain extends from Japan’s southern Ryuku Islands southward and east of the Philippines and covers the entire South China Sea. The second island chain stretches more than a thousand miles into the Pacific in an arc from Japan westward and south to western New Guinea.

 

Few details could be learned about the new missile and a Pentagon spokesman declined to comment, citing a policy of not commenting on intelligence matters.

 

The missile is said to be on a road-mobile chassis and to use solid fuel. The fuel and mobility allow the missile to be hidden in underground facilities and fired on short notice, making it very difficult to counter in a conflict.

 

The DF-26C is expected to be mentioned in the Pentagon’s forthcoming annual report on China’s military power, which is due to Congress next month.

 

Adm. Cecil Haney, commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, told a congressional hearing this week that missile and other nuclear threats from China and Russia continue to grow.

 

“The current security environment is more complex, dynamic, and uncertain than at any time in recent history,” Haney said in testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee. “Advances of significant nation state and non-state military capabilities continue across all air, sea, land, and space domains—as well as in cyberspace. This trend has the potential to adversely impact strategic stability.”

 

Russia and China in particular “are investing in long-term and wide-ranging military modernization programs to include extensive modernization of their strategic capabilities,” Haney said. “Nuclear weapons ambitions and the proliferation of weapon and nuclear technologies continue, increasing risk that countries will resort to nuclear coercion in regional crises or nuclear use in future conflicts.”

 

Richard Fisher, a China military affairs specialist, said Chinese reports have discussed a DF-26 missile as a medium-range or intermediate-range system. Medium-range is considered between 621 miles and 1,864 miles. Intermediate-range is between 1,864 and 3,418 miles

 

Online reports of three new types of medium- and intermediate-range missiles have said the weapons could be multi-role systems capable of firing nuclear or conventional warheads, along with maneuvering anti-ship and hypersonic warheads, Fisher said.

 

According to Fisher, two likely transporter erector launchers (TEL) for the new missiles were displayed last year on Chinese websites. They include two versions from missile TEL manufacturing companies called Sanjiang and Taian.

 

Three years ago, the state-run Global Times reported that the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corp. (CASIC) was working on a new 2,400-mile range missile that would be deployed by 2015.

 

That Chinese manufacturer also produced the DF-21 missile, prompting speculation that the DF-26C is a follow-up version of that system.

 

“China is developing and will soon deploy new longer-range theater missiles as part of its anti-access, area denial strategies, to be part of a combined force of new long-range bombers armed with supersonic anti-ship missiles, plus space weapons and larger numbers of submarines,” Fisher said in an email.

 

These forces are being deployed to push U.S. forces out of the first island chain and to have the capability to reach the second chain, including Guam, he said.

 

“China also consistently refuses to consider formal dialogue about its future nuclear forces or to consider any near term limits on them,” Fisher said. “China is giving Washington and its Asian allies no other choice but to pursue an ‘armed peace’ in Asia.”

 

According to Fisher, the Chinese missile buildup has forced the Navy to redesign its first aircraft carrier-based unmanned combat vehicle into a larger and longer aircraft.

 

The new Chinese long-range missiles also highlight the urgent need for a new U.S. long-range bomber to replace an aging fleet of strategic bombers.

 

To counter the Chinese threats, the United States should field its force of anti-ship ballistic missiles on submarines to match Chinese capabilities and deter China from using its naval power against U.S. allies such as Japan and the Philippines, Fisher said.

 

Russian officials have cited China’s intermediate-range missiles as one reason Moscow is seeking to jettison the U.S.-Russia Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF), which bans medium and intermediate ballistic and cruise missiles.

 

U.S. officials have said Russia is violating the INF treaty with a new cruise missile and testing its long-range missiles to INF ranges.

 

“It is time to retire the INF treaty because the United States now requires this class of missiles in order to deter China,” Fisher said.

 

“The bottom line: We are in an arms race with China and if America falters, so will our strategic position in Asia, which will surely increase the chances of conflict, nuclear proliferation and even nuclear war.”

 

The Pentagon’s latest report on China’s military forces, published last year, said the PLA is investing in “a series of advanced short- and medium-range conventional ballistic missiles, land-attack and anti-ship cruise missiles, counter-space weapons, and military cyberspace capabilities.”

 

The weapons “appear designed to enable anti-access/area-denial (A2/AD) missions, what PLA strategists refer to as ‘counter-intervention operations,’” the report said.

 

The Washington Free Beacon first reported on March 7, 2012, that the Chinese military had revealed online photos of a new intermediate-range nuclear missile.

 

The new missile is believed by U.S. officials to be the DF-26C.

 

China’s military frequently uses the Internet to reveal the first photos of new weapons systems.

 

Analysts said the missile TEL shown in the photo is smaller in size than China’s DF-31 intercontinental missile and larger than the DF-21 missile.

 

Henri K.

[Henri K.]

Oui : Pas de mirv sur le df5 ni sur n'importe quel autre missile chinois. Je n'ai pas la prétention d'être dans le secret des Dieux...

C'est pourquoi je choisis de faire confiance aux observateurs faisant autorité.

Pourquoi, alors, les analystes internationaux habituels (les Jane's, Kriestiensen et autres) n'en font pas état, alors même qu'ils ont souvent été plutôt "optimistes" (dans le sens où ils font état de progrès pas encore réellement atteints) dans leurs évaluations de l'arsenal chinois ?

Franchement, de 2 choses, l'une : soit tu te trompes et tu as un peu de mal à le reconnaître, soit AD.net dispose, par ton intermédiaire, d'informations de première main, tellement confidentielles qu'elles ne sont même pas arrivées aux oreilles des observateurs faisant consensus ???

 

Indépendament de cette "querelle d'experts", je souhaite signaler que l'absence de mirv (alors même qu'ils ont la capcité technique de le faire) n'est sans doute pas le signe d'une faiblesse de leur arsenal, mais plutôt d'un choix d'équipement cohérent. En effet, pour un même nombre de têtes, celà implique un plus grand nombre de lanceurs et donc, une vulénarbilité moins grande de l'arsenal face à une 1ère frappe en raison tout simplement d'un plus grande nombre de cibles potentielles. Par ailleurs, le fait de ne mettre qu'une tête par missile laisse plus de place pour des leurres et autres aides à la pénétration.

Il convient parfois d'être moins catégorique quand on ne sait pas.

Rapport 2015 du MoD USA, page 16, c'est bien le DF-5B que je parlais en 2013, l'information que j'ai déjà eu depuis 2011, et les Américains ne publient qu'en 2015. C'est pour cela que je dis que l'information à la source, le reste, on tomb rapidement dans de "l'épouvantailisme"..

http://www.defense.gov/pubs/2015_China_Military_Power_Report.pdf

 

Un autre document R&D confirmant l'existence de MIRV sur DF-5B déjà en service.

 

Dans ce document qui parle du revêtement anti-oxydant dans la chambre de propulsion des moteurs de contrôle d'altitude à ergol liquide, les chercheurs parlent d'un revêtement fait en alliage NbHf / "815" qui est utilisé, en outre, dans le moteur PBV de xx-5B.

 

Dans notre cas, xx ne peut être que DF.

 

 

 

Henri K.

Henri K.

Modifié le 9 mai 2015 par Henri K.

[collectionneur]

Bon dimanche et bon retour, merci du lien :)

[ascromis]

Bon sang un revenant !!!

Ça va recommencer à bouger du côté des fils armée chinoise :) :)