L'Inde

[xav]

Allez, c'est reparti dans l'anti sarkozisme de base 

Segolene va s'excuser pour ça aussi?

[Marcus]

J'ai déjà mis cette info dans le fil Rafale. Pour ceux qui l'ont déja lu, je m'en excuse.

Indian Air Force says Rafale still in fighter competition

Est-ce que cela a besoin de traduction?  :lol:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/04/20/325334/indian-air-force-says-rafale-still-in-fighter-competition.html

The Indian Air Force has denied reports that the Dassault Rafale has been eliminated from the country’s medium multi-role combat aircraft competition.

“We have not ruled anyone out yet in the MMRCA competition,” says an IAF spokesman, who confirmed that the service is responsible for evaluating the contenders. “All of the tests have not been completed. The technical evaluations are only just over and we are scheduled to begin the flight tests next month. Everyone is still in the competition.”

Traduction : l'armée de l'air Indienne dénie avoir éliminer le Rafale  de la compétition pour son appel d'offre.

Nous n'avons pas terminé tous les tests. L'évaluation technique vient juste d'être terminée et nous allons effectuer les essais en vol à partir du mois prochain.

Tout le monde est encore en compétition.

[Zamorana]

C'était juste une rumeur pour faire baisser les prix alors.

[Julien]

La décision est prise mais ils auraient préféré que ca se sache plus tard alors maintenant on fait nie officiellement mais à mon avis c'est cuit.

[Coriace]

Et c'est tant mieux .

Et en effet ,quel grand méchant ce Sarkozy ,je vous jure !

Bon blague à part il a pas eu tort de pas rencontrer Mittal ,mais c'est les même qui quand il est arrivé en France disaient que c'était génial que ça se passe dans ce sens ,qu'un pays dit "pauvre" ,s'établisse dans un pays dit "riche" .

La prochaine fois ,vu le résultat (logique) ça les refroidira .

Pourvu qu'on aie perdu le marché indien !

Ca nous aurait grillé avec les Pakis :D .

Je rejoint le mouvement de ceux qui préfèrent le Brésil au fait .

[Philippe Top-Force]

La décision est prise mais ils auraient préféré que ca se sache plus tard alors maintenant on fait nie officiellement mais à mon avis c'est cuit.

On aura des eclairsissements au Salon du Bourget cet été et au défilé du 14 juillet.

http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2009/04/lindian-air-force-au-dessus-de-paris.html

[Darkjmfr]

Faudra quand même lui dire qu'au delà du côté clairement visible des canards il y a un monde entre un Su 27 et un 30MKI...

[francois]

apparemment pour l'a330mrtt, c'est bien parti pour 6 exemplaires (un futur best seller?)

[Philippe Top-Force]

apparemment pour l'a330mrtt, c'est bien parti pour 6 exemplaires (un futur best seller?)

Si cela se confirme pour l'A330-200 MRTT, mais il faut dès maintenant que notre AdA et l'US AF en fassent de même.

UK/Australie/EAU/Arabie Saoudite/Inde/France/USA. Canada et Allemagne ayant le A310 MRTT. oui un futur succès

[Skw]

J'ai hésité à créer un nouveau fil "humour dans les marchés"

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India warns against arms deal corruption

NEW DELHI (AFP) — India's defence minister said Wednesday that arms companies trying to bribe their way into big-ticket defence contracts will be "ruthlessly" excluded from the country's huge weapons acquisition programme.

India is the largest buyer of military hardware among emerging economies, and plans to spend 30 billion dollars by 2012 on arms purchases.

"At times, we found certain manipulations and malpractices. We cannot ignore that so we ruthlessly cancelled big ticket items," Defence Minister A.K. Antony told reporters.

"We will ruthlessly cancel contracts in the future also as in the past. This is not a happy experience but we will be forced to take such action."

In December 2007, the Indian airforce scrapped a 600-million-dollar deal for 197 helicopters after allegations of corruption in the bidding process.

The deal had been awarded to Eurocopter, the helicopter unit of the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS), which makes civil and military aircraft, in February 2007.

Eurocopter denied Indian media allegations about the involvement of middlemen in the project.

Another deal for 22 attack helicopters was scrapped in March, on the grounds that the firms in the race had failed to meet contractual parameters. Indian defence sources, however, said there were suspicions of irregularities in bidding for the 550-million dollar contract.

India banned middlemen in military deals following allegations of bribery in an artillery deal in the 1980s with Swedish firm Bofors. That scandal led to the downfall of the government of Congress prime minister Rajiv Gandhi in 1989.

"While we are determined to speed up procurement, we cannot compromise on transparency," Antony said.

defense news citant l'AFP

[murena]

non mais ça DOIT être dans la section humour.

l'hôpital qui se fout de la charité mais quelque chose de bien...

[Rom_un]

C'est peut être pour ça que le Rafale avait été éliminé temporairement  =)

[alexandreVBCI]

May 25/09: The Hindustan Times adds more fuel to the fire:

“In an exclusive interview to HT, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major said, “We have finished all evaluations and selected the A330 MRTT. The deal will come up for final approval by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) very soon. The Russian platform did not meet certain requirements.”

L'article complet : http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Indias-Aerial-Tanker-Competition-05391/#more-5391

Peut-on déboucher le champagne ?

[murena]

j'attendrais encore le "final approval" du CCS, mais ça a l'air bon pour une fois.

[debonneguerre]

May 25/09: The Hindustan Times adds more fuel to the fire:

“In an exclusive interview to HT, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major said, “We have finished all evaluations and selected the A330 MRTT. The deal will come up for final approval by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) very soon. The Russian platform did not meet certain requirements.”

L'article complet : http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Indias-Aerial-Tanker-Competition-05391/#more-5391

Peut-on déboucher le champagne ?

12 coucous, oui espérons que ca le fasse, mais bon c'est EADS, on débouchera le champagne quand o vendra du DASSAULT....

[Philippe Top-Force]

Après les voilures fixes, maintenant les voilures tournantes.

06:39 GMT, May 28, 2009 NEW DELHI | The Indian Air Force (IAF) has announced two separate tenders for the purchase of 22 advanced attack and 15 heavy-lift helicopters, the Times of India reported on Wednesday.

The daily said the military had been pressing the government for several years to replace and modernize their mostly Soviet-vintage inventory.

The IAF acquired a few Mi-26s in the mid-1980s, but the aircraft are now ageing, short of spare components and need replacing. India faces many of the same problems that the Allied forces in Afghanistan do because of the high, hot environments that aircraft must fly in.

The tender for the 22 advanced attack helicopters was first released just before the Berlin Air Show in May 2008 to six contenders, three U.S. companies - Sikorsky (Black Hawk), Boeing (Apache AH 64D), Bell (Super Cobra) - and Eurocopter (Tiger) Russia's Mil (Mi-35), and Augusta Westland for Mangusta.

The U.S. companies said, however, they were unable to take part in the original tender in the United States due to "time constraints and procedural bottlenecks." Both Boeing and Bell helicopter wanted to reach a government-to-government deal, while the IAF wanted to buy directly from the manufacturer.

The IAF then canceled the original tender and decided to re-issue the tender to ensure that the most competitive aircraft were involved in the procurement process.

Boeing's India unit confirmed that it has been invited for both the tenders. Viuvek Lall, Boeing's Integrated Defense Systems country head for India, was quoted as saying: "Boeing has received the RfPs [Request for Proposals] for the attack and heavy lift helicopters and will review the requirements. Boeing's Apache and Chinook can provide the Indian Air Force with the most capable, proven and versatile platforms in their respective class."

A.J.S. Walia, Sikorsky's India vice president, said his company will pit "the world famous Black Hawk" against the competition.

As attack aircraft, India requested a 2.5 tonne twin-engined copter with all-weather and terrain ability. The new copter should also be highly manoeuvrable and able to deploy 20mm turret guns, rockets, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles. The new attack helicopter should also be able to employ air-to-ground, fire-and-forget missiles with a range of at least seven kilometers. Beyond that it should be equipped with anti-armour capabilities and be capable of operating at high altitudes such as in the Kashmir's mountain borders with Pakistan with day-and-night operations capabilities.

[fool]

le Mi-35 ?? 2,5tonnes ??  :lol: .......et pas le Mi-28 , pas de KA-50/52 , decidemment j'ai bien du mal a saisir la logique des appels d'offres indiens 

[Berkut]

Bah en même temps aucun des appareils ne rentre dans cette catégorie :lol: Les tonnes indiennes doivent être différentes.

[Philippe Top-Force]

Après les voilures fixes, maintenant les voilures tournantes.

06:39 GMT, May 28, 2009 NEW DELHI |

As attack aircraft, India requested a 2.5 tonne twin-engined copter with all-weather and terrain ability. The new copter should also be highly manoeuvrable and able to deploy 20mm turret guns, rockets, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles. The new attack helicopter should also be able to employ air-to-ground, fire-and-forget missiles with a range of at least seven kilometers. Beyond that it should be equipped with anti-armour capabilities and be capable of operating at high altitudes such as in the Kashmir's mountain borders with Pakistan with day-and-night operations capabilities.

En fait fool, ils ont déjà lancé un projet d'HC léger et ils veulent aussi 22 HAC plus lourd. De plus, ils ont déjà commandé des Chinook pour leurs forces spéciales.

[fool]

En fait fool, ils ont déjà lancé un projet d'HC léger et ils veulent aussi 22 HAC plus lourd. De plus, ils ont déjà commandé des Chinook pour leurs forces spéciales.

Ok , merci pour l'info  =) , et je ne connaissais pas leur projet , je viens de lire sur Keypub que ce serait le Mi-28N night hawk le candidat russe , pas le Mi-35 ce qui a du sens , probablement une boulette de journaliste comme les 2.5tonnes ......

[Philippe Top-Force]

L'Inde veut avant tout une coopération et transfert de technologie dans le nucléaire civil, un transfert de technologie et assembler une très grosse partie du lot des 126 avions de combat. Donc au final, seuls 3 peuvent suivre. En premier les Russes, premier fournisseur de l'Inde, en 2 la France, et en 3, les USA qui ne seront peut-être plus d'accord, de laisser les Indiens assembler les Super Hornet ou Lightening II sur le sol indien.

126 jets de combat, 197 hélicos légers, 22 hélicos de combat lourd, 15 très gros porteurs, plus des air tanker, cela va saigner sur le marché d'aéronautique. Pour l'instant, Boeing a placé des Chinook aux SF Indiens, et des futurs Poséidon. LM quelques C130-30J pour les SF.

[P4]

7 Defense Firms in India Could Be Blacklisted

By vivek raghuvanshi

Published: 4 Jun 2009 13:31

NEW DELHI - India's Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has asked the country's Defence Ministry to blacklist seven defense companies from doing business in India.

Sources in the Defence Ministry said the CBI made the request in a letter sent to the ministry June 4. The CBI is alleging that four foreign companies and three Indian companies were involved in paying bribes to the director general of India's Ordnance Factories Board to get orders fixed, or to influence the finalization of contracts in favor of the companies in question.

The Defence Ministry's spokesman was unavailable for comment.

The names of the seven companies were not disclosed by the sources. Sudipta Ghosh, the former director general of the Ordnance Factories Board, was arrested May 20 on bribery charges.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4123153&c=ASI&s=TOP

[Kiriyama]

L'hélicoptère c'est 100% indien ou il y a une coopération ?

[Berkut]

Il sera à 100% indien, mais... Aura des performances pathétiques, son avionique datera des années 70, il consommera comme tanker, transportera moins qu'une Alouette et aura en prime le plus gros palmarès des crashs de l'histoire des voilures tournantes. Bienvenue en Inde. :lol:

[Zamorana]

Pour l'instant c'est pas encore convainquant, les chinois n'en finissent pas de sortir leur Z-10, alors l'Inde va mettre un peu de temps aussi.

Il sera peut être bon, mais je ne le trouve pas très impressionnant.