Marine indienne

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L'Inde veut reconvertir un porte-avions en hôtel de luxe

http://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/l-inde-veut-reconvertir-un-porte-avions-en-hotel-de-luxe.N380375

[Onyx29]

Porte-avions indien : Rafale Marine vs Mig 29K ?

Le réseau de télévision NDTV a confirmé qu’une délégation française de haut niveau aurait rencontré le 29 janvier dernier l’état-major de la Marine indien dans le but de lui proposer les Rafale marine.

L’Inde envisage en effet d’ouvrir un appel d’offres pour acquérir un quatrième porte-avions de 65 000 tonnes, pour 300 m de long et 70 m de large (soit quasiment les caractéristiques du « Prince of Wales »). New Dehli semble séduite par la propulsion nucléaire, considérée moins coûteuse sur les cycles longs d’utilisation, puisqu’elle espère conserver ce nouveau bâtiment, d’ores et déjà baptisé « Vishal », près de cinquante ans.

La composante aérienne multirôle du « Vishal » serait l’un des points critiques de cette compétition, et la quantité d’appareils requise serait de 54 exemplaires. Le MoD indien chercherait de plus à homogénéiser la logistique et les pièces détachées entre les avions de l’Air Force et ceux de la Navy. Or, parmi les autres avions qui seraient évalués, seuls le Rafale, s’il est acquis par l’Indian Air Force, et le Mig 29, déployé dans sa version navalisée K sur le porte avion « Vikrant », bénéficient de cet atout.

http://www.ttu.fr/p-a-indien-rafale-marine-vs-mig-29k/

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  Indian Navy Deploys P-8I Maritime Patrol Aircraft to Seychelles for EEZ Surveillance


http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3728

The Indian Navy has deployed a P 8I maritime reconnaissance aircraft to Seychelles since 20 Mar 16, for surveillance in the Exclusive Economic Zone of Seychelles, in accordance with the MoU between the Governments of India and Seychelles. The Indian Navy has, in the past, undertaken surveillance missions in the Seychellois EEZ twice a year, by deploying IN ships. The last such deployment was undertaken by ships of the 1st Training Squadron of the Indian Navy, in Oct 15. This is the first time that the P8I aircraft has been deployed to Seychelles.

[Philippe Top-Force]

 

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Le #Scorpene Kalvari construit par #MDL sur un design DCNS s'apprêtait à partir en essai le 23 mars dernier à Mumbai

 

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Scorpene® (P75 conventional Submarine)

Six such submarines are getting manufactured at MDL for Indian Navy with DCNS design and support. The first submarine is at very advanced level and is expected to be commissioned by end of 2016.

With India, Chile and Malaysia, a total of ten Scorpene® submarines will be in service around the world.

Mistral Landing Platform Deck Ship

Indian Navy under Make In India issued RFP to three Indian shipyards to procure four LPDs (two at winning shipyard and two on nomination to HSL). Pipavav (now Reliance) is partner of DCNS and RFP offer has been submitted and decision from Indian government is awaited.

DCNS Evolved Aircraft Carrier Ship

The aircraft carrier deploys an on-board aircraft group (up to 40 aircraft). DEAC® (DCNS Evolved Air Craft) is equipped with the latest generation of combat systems. Its advanced conventional propulsion system allows the optimization of replenishment frequency and ensures a permanent presence at sea within an air-sea group.

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Indian Navy conducted test of its K-4 submarine launched ballistic missile

The Indian Navy conducted the test of its K-4 submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM) from submarine ballistic missile submarine (SBBN) INS Arihant in the Bay of Bengal.

 The 111-metre-long INS Arihant has four vertical launch tubes and has the capability of carrying 6 torpedoes of 533 mm and 12 B-05 (K-15) missiles or 4 K-4 missiles. Powered by an 85 MW capacity nuclear reactor with enriched uranium fuel, this submarine can achieve surface speeds of 12 knots to 15 knots, and submerged speeds of up to 24 knots, carrying a crew of 95.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3828

[Philippe Top-Force]

Finalement c'est un nain des mers Arihant de 120 mètres, 4 silos pour 3 missiles K-15 ou 1 K-4

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il y a 50 minutes, Philippe Top-Force a dit :

Finalement c'est un nain des mers Arihant de 120 mètres, 4 silos pour 3 missiles K-15 ou 1 K-4

Il y a même des sources qui annoncent 112m... 6000t en surface.... c'est grosso-modo les dimensions d'un 688

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[alexWF]

L'inde pourrait construire sous licence des Kilo du projet 636

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1963277.html

[Fenrir]

Concernant la Marine Indienne, j'ai eu pas mal d'info qui font peur vis à vis de leurs soum: SSK plongeant à 26° avec hélice faisant surface et batterie mal attachées...

[Ciders]

il y a 8 minutes, Fenrir a dit :

Concernant la Marine Indienne, j'ai eu pas mal d'info qui font peur vis à vis de leurs soum: SSK plongeant à 26° avec hélice faisant surface et batterie mal attachées...

Problèmes de formation ou de maintenance ? Ou les deux ?

[Fenrir]

Pas de détail mais cela donnait plus vers la formation.

[jeansaisrien]

bonjour,

plusieurs sites notamment indiens frétillent des développements envisagés pour le missile Brahmos pour en faire un "aircraft carrier buster" (surtout chinois ...) :

http://defencenews.in/article/India-Russia-tweaking-Brahmos-to-shatter-Chinese-Aircraft-Carriers-8838

"The test hit the warship target at an angle of 65 degrees and destroy it. But this capability would enought to stop an aircraft carrier of over 60 000 tonnes. "Carriers have sealable compartments designed to survive multiple hits from anti-ship missiles", one scientist missile says. This were phase of the Brahmos missile comes in next year -fitting a modified radar seeker on the missile that can lock onto a moving aircraft carrier and plunge onto its desks in a near 90 degree death dive. The deck of a large aircraft carrier-nearly 300 metres long and 75 metres wide-presents the largest available target for a homing cruise missile's radar seeker".

 

[Henri K.]

Voilà aussi pourquoi je n'aime pas les comparaisons, et ce non seulement pour des raisons techniques.

En plus, la sale habitude de la guerre par délégation des US n'a absolument pas changé, seulement les pigeons sont devenus de plus en plus gros... D'ici s'ajoute le fameux refrain : "Vous n'êtes pas capable de faire seuls, donc acheter..".

En somme, non seulement on envoie des pigeons à une mort certaine, en plus on les saigne presqu'à mort juste avant. C'est n'imp ou c'est n'imp ? (Pardon, j'ai failli sortir la mauvaise blague, "c'est Trump ou c'est n'imp ?")

U.S. Effort to Help India Build Up Navy Hits Snag

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Setbacks for New Delhi’s first homemade aircraft carrier slow efforts to face China on high seas

By DANIEL STACEY

Updated Nov. 30, 2016 6:46 a.m. ET

NEW DELHI—When top American naval engineers recently inspected India’s first locally made aircraft carrier they expected to find a near battle-ready ship set to help counter China’s growing sway in the Indian Ocean.

Instead, they discovered the carrier wouldn’t be operational for up to a decade and other shortcomings: no small missile system to defend itself, a limited ability to launch sorties and no defined strategy for how to use the ship in combat. The findings alarmed U.S. officials hoping to enlist India as a bulwark against China, people close to the meeting said.

“China’s navy will be the biggest in the world soon, and they’re definitely eyeing the Indian Ocean with ports planned in Sri Lanka and Bangladesh,” said retired Admiral Arun Prakash, the former commander of India’s navy. “The Indian navy is concerned about this.”

The February carrier inspection, in the port of Kochi, formed part of U.S. plans to share aircraft carrier technology with India. Indian naval officials followed up with a tour of an American shipbuilding yard in Virginia and strategy briefings at the Pentagon in September, the people close to the meetings said.

The U.S. and India are drawing closer politically and militarily. The two have participated in joint naval exercises with Japan. The U.S. has agreed to sell New Delhi everything from attack helicopters to artillery. Washington has approved proposals by Lockheed Martinand Boeing Co. to make advanced jet fighters in India. And in August, the two countries signed a military logistics-sharing accord.

The emerging relationship has reshaped Asia’s geopolitical terrain, riling China, which has issued diplomatic complaints over the joint exercises, and sometimes sidelining Russia, long India’s largest supplier of military hardware.

Both Indian and American officials say they hope cooperation will grow under President-elect Donald Trump, who has signaled a tougher approach toward China. After the U.S. election, the American Ambassador to India said the ties forged with India under President Barack Obama were “irreversible.”

The centerpiece of the military cooperation are the aircraft carriers.

“Of all the U.S.’s efforts to cooperate with India’s military, the aircraft carrier project is the one with the biggest potential payout and could make the biggest difference to the regional balance of power,” saidAshley Tellis of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a former U.S. adviser in New Delhi.

But U.S. concerns are growing about India’s military strategy. Experts worry New Delhi’s insistence on building complex military gear largely from scratch, a legacy of its period of nonalignment, has led to severe delays in modernizing its carriers, jet fighters and nuclear submarines and limited its ability to fight.

A Indian Defense Ministry spokesman declined to comment beyond saying that its aircraft carriers were “still under progress.” A Navy spokesman declined to comment. Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar recently reiterated a commitment to indigenous manufacturing, citing concerns that foreign supply of arms and ammunition could be cut off in a time of war. “I think self-dependence is very important,” he said.

China, meanwhile, is rapidly expanding its military forces. It launched its first aircraft carrier in 2012 and is building two more. Chinese state-owned companies have invested in strategic ports circling the Indian Ocean in Sri Lanka, Myanmar and Pakistan, that have resupplied its naval vessels. And China is now building its first overseas military outpost in Djibouti.

Chinese officials have rejected assertions that they are pursuing military objectives in the Indian Ocean, saying submarines resupplying in Sri Lanka were heading to the Gulf of Aden on antipiracy missions.

India, for its part, pledged funding last year for a new port in Iran where India’s own ships could potentially resupply for Indian Ocean missions. And it is seeking to match China’s naval force by adding two Indian-built carriers to the Russian one it now operates.

The first homemade Indian carrier, the INS Vikrant, has fallen short of expectations. An Indian state audit, released in July, found serious faults in its design and construction, from gear boxes to jet launching systems and air conditioning units.

The shipyard building the carrier, which has already cost $3 billion, “had no previous experience of warship construction” and is five years behind schedule, the audit said. India’s military sticks by its 2018 deadline.

Other experts said the ship’s hull was built before the navy had decided on some of the weapons systems, likely hampering its eventual performance. India’s homemade Tejas jet fighters, which are slated to fly from the Vikrant alongside squadrons of Russian jets, are also struggling to take off and land with an adequate payload on a simulated flight deck where they are being tested, people familiar with its testing said.

The upshot, these experts say: the carrier’s defensive flaws make it unlikely to able to operate in important theaters like the Persian Gulf or off the eastern coast of Africa, outside of the protective range of India’s land-based air force.

Still, the U.S. Navy plans to step up cooperation, pinning its hopes on India’s second homemade carrier, which promises to be far larger and contain more advanced technology. While carriers are losing their relevancy with the proliferation of cheap antiship missiles and advanced attack submarines, they are still likely to remain at the core of most major navies for some decades.

Henri K.

[Ciders]

http://defence-blog.com/news/indian-navy-frigate-betwa-tips-over-during-undocking.html

Si j'ai bien compris, la frégate s'est retournée alors qu'elle était en cale sèche ? C'est un incident extrêmement rare non ?

[pascal]

Le 01/12/2016 à 23:16, Henri K. a dit :

En plus, la sale habitude de la guerre par délégation des US

Henri je pense que ni les Indiens qui sont de grands garçons ni les Chinois n'ont besoin de quiconque pour se foutre sur la gueule ... Que ce soient les Américains ou les Russes d'ailleurs ...

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il y a 11 minutes, pascal a dit :

Henri je pense que ni les Indiens qui sont de grands garçons ni les Chinois n'ont besoin de quiconque pour se foutre sur la gueule ... Que ce soient les Américains ou les Russes d'ailleurs ...

Si j'étais cynique, je te répondrais que les Indiens ont besoin des autres pour s'équiper en matos pour foutre sur la gueule des autres vu la "qualité" (sic) de leurs productions locales...

[pascal]

il y a 2 minutes, Dorfmeister a dit :

Si j'étais cynique, je te répondrais que les Indiens ont besoin des autres pour s'équiper en matos pour foutre sur la gueule des autres vu la "qualité" (sic) de leurs productions locales...

Oui mais quand le mur de la frontière entre les deux intéressés fait entre 5000 et 8000 m de haut et que tu en es réduit à te tirer dessus à coup d'obusier de 105 mm d'une vallée glaciaire à l'autre à défaut de pouvoir envisager autre chose, le fait de posséder un chasseur de 4e génération ou un porte-avions est certes intéressant mais si tu veux çà ne va pas péter très haut...

Et comme les deux ont l'arme nucléaire ...