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Hello Any one has any info about the new IRST channel of new indian rafale plus pics of israeli towed decoys in rafale Thanks CHEERS Bonjour Tout le monde a des informations sur la PREMIÈRE chaîne du nouveau indien Rafale plus photos de leurres remorqués israéliens à rafale Merci

Hello I want to ask something can nonfrench towed decoys be integrated in iaf Rafale like Rafael x gaurd? Bonjour Je veux demander quelque chose que les automates de remorquage non français peuvent être intégrés dans Rafale Rafale comme Rafale x garde?

AIRBUS WORKING ON NEW FIGHTER DESIGN AIRBUS DEFENCE AND Space has revealed some details of its plans to develop a next-generation European ghter. The company has con rmed that it is engaged in pre-design studies for what it calls the Next Generation Weapons System (NGWS), including talks with European governments. The manned NGWS is planned to combine the attributes of manned and unmanned aircraft and to work in combination with ‘swarming’ drones. Airbus expects France and Germany to take the lead in the program, with a view to potential service entry between 2035 and 2040. The company says that detailed design studies could begin next year, followed by a decision on the new platform in the next two to three years. Depending on the outcome of the United Kingdom’s Brexit decision, the country could also join the NGWS program after preliminary studies with France. Germany, Spain, and France/UK are all currently involved in di erent future combat aircraft projects named as the Future Combat Air Study (FCAS), although the Franco-British e ort is a longerterm e ort focused on unmanned technologies. In related news, France and Germany have agreed to jointly develop a second-generation variant of the Tiger/Tigre attack helicopter. The plan was rea rmed during a joint meeting between defense ministers Jean-Yves Le Drian and Ursula von der Leyen. Source from combat aircraft monthly june 2017 pg 27 http://indiandefence.com/threads/rafales-mini-encyclopedia.15925/page-60#post-563553

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/rafale-deal-to-be-signed-on-eve-of-hollandes-india-visit/ CHEERS P.S i am still alive :lol:

http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/l-indonesie-recale-le-rafale-et-choisit-le-sukhoi-su-35-502415.html

Rafale Acquisition on Track, Lights Green For Final Stretch: Sources All India | Written by Vishnu Som | Updated: September 01, 2015 22:08 IST The 36 off-the-shelf Rafale fighter jets will cost exchequer $8 to $9 billion. NEW DELHI: The Narendra Modi government appears to be going ahead with the off-the shelf purchase of 36 Rafale fighters, which the Indian Air Force needs urgently. In the clearest indication of the government's intention so far, the Defence Acquisition Committee has asked the Defence Ministry negotiating team to proceed with end-stage negotiations, sources told NDTV. Unofficial estimates indicate the deal for 36 jets could cost the exchequer $8 to $9 billion. The move comes five months after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced India's intention to acquire 36 Rafale fighters in an off-the-shelf deal with the government of France -- a deal he expected to conclude within a month or two. Today's developments are a clear indicator that hurdles which existed towards the acquisition of the Rafale have now likely been removed. These were linked to India's mandatory offset requirements, under which 50% of the total value of the Rafale deal would need to be ploughed back into Indian industry. Sources indicate that French negotiators had told the government that the process would substantially delay the acquisition of the fighters. NDTV has learnt that the French government may now have indicated to the government of India its willingness to set up a third line to manufacture Rafale fighters in future. This, the French argue, will go towards meeting its mandatory offset requirements in the deal in the future. NDTV has also learnt that the French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian was expected to be in New Delhi today. But he has delayed his visit to this country, pending the progress on the Rafale deal, on the advice of the Government of India. The Indian Air Force requires the Rafale fighters to fulfill a long pending requirement to step up its squadron strength, which has been depleted over the years by having to retire older generation aircraft. The IAF also believes that the Rafale gives it a capability to strike ground targets and air targets in complex futuristic battles. The government's decision to acquire 36 Rafale came after it scrapped the Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft tender to acquire 126 fighters, most of which were to be built in India by Hindustan Aeronautics. With differences over transfer of technology and overall cost issues continuing for years, the government decided to proceed with a smaller direct purchase from France -- something that may now be officially announced very soon barring any eleventh-hour setback. Story First Published: September 01, 2015 22:05 IST Rafale Acquisition on Track, Lights Green For Final Stretch: Sources

inducting more number of SU30mki upgrade would take less time as we have already an assembly line . but Make in India rafale would be a facepalm of time for us . rather intially i was happy if france had delivered rafale from it's own factory .It would fasten the delivery of rafale jets but now Make in iNDIA rafale i can bet you even with my last penny if i have at the end , is that it would take more time & surely would delay the induction of rafale jet further no matter how much they try. But after all MODI 's reputation at stake & intense lobby of IAF , the deal might get thru . but you never know in india anything can happen CHEERS

LOLZZ indians have already gone for upgrades of SU30mki which would be boasting AESA radar . plus india is planning to induct LCA mark1 with isreali aesa radar as LCA mark2 would take quite some time . plUS PAK-fa program would also be accelertated by 2020/21 india would start recieving 1st pak-fa planes of it;'s own Since when did pakistan getting aesa equipped planes , JF block 2 wont have aesa radar i have confirmed that in pak forums CHEERS

thats why france are luring india for Make in india program instead of 50 % offset with a motive to get more orders. if they do that it's confirmed india might order more than 36 in future CHEERS

French refuse to Integrate Indian Weapons systems in Rafale jet Published August 17, 2015 | By admin SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK (INN) While French government have rejected Indian negotiators’ demand for a 50 per cent offset clause, citing sharp cost escalation but were keen on Make in India initiative of Prime minister Modi, What likely could be deal breaker for Indian military planners could be French refusal to integrate Indian developed weapons system in french build Rafale jet . French negotiation team want separate Research and development agreement which can look into Indian request but have promised it can only be taken up few years down the line after deliveries for ordered 36 jets start. India wants to integrate its own indigenously developed Astra Beyond visual range missile (BVRAAM) developed by DRDO and later integration of longer Astra II BVR missile which is still under development. Sources close to idrw.org believe, Integration was not just limited to Astra BVR missiles but there were firm plans also to integrate other weapons systems like Air launched variant of Smaller BrahMos NG, Shorter Nirbhay air-launched cruise missile (ALCM) and precision-guided munition under development in India. Defense Experts believe that Indian team might have asked for Source code of RBE2-AA Aesa radar system used in Rafale jet, So integration can take place in India with little help from French team instead of India depending on French Company to integrate Indian weapons systems and also avoid large Research and development fund requested by France. 50 per cent offset clause and transfer of technology including Source code transfer of RBE2-AA Aesa radar system was part of the original tender that was floated for 126 fighter jets, but with orders of only 36 aircrafts currently under negotiation, French team don’t see merit in providing Source code of RBE2-AA Aesa radar system . http://idrw.org/french-refuse-to-integrate-indian-weapons-systems-in-rafale-jet/

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"Bang" en Charente: le Rafale partait en interception 11h22 par charentelibre.fr 36 réactions Tweeter C'était bien une mission d'interception qui a motivé le passage à vitesse supersonique du Rafale provoquant jeudi une détonation entendue dans toute la Charente. La nature de l'opération reste secrète. Jeudi, un Rafale en provenance de la base de Mont-de-Marsan a affolé toute la Charente. PHOTO/AFPLe bang avait sorti la Charente de sa torpeur estivale. Il était 18h, mercredi soir, quand d’Angoulême à Saint-Amant de Boixe, une forte déflagration a fait vibrer quelques vitres et réveillé les vacanciers assommés par la chaleur. « C’était une mission de la permanence opérationnelle de Mont-de-Marsan », confirme l’officier de communication de la BA118. A 17h45, le Rafale a décollé pour aller intercepter une cible. L’officier n’en dira pas plus sur la mission dont les détails doivent rester secrets. « Il devait se rendre rapidement sur l’objectif, d’où le passage en vitesse supersonique ». Lors des missions opérationnelles, comme celle de la semaine dernière, les pilotes peuvent passer le mur du son à n’importe quelle altitude et à n’importe endroit, mais uniquement sur ordre. Les limitations d’altitudes (jamais en dessous de 10.000m) et de secteurs s’appliquent uniquement pour les entraînements. http://www.charentelibre.fr/2015/07/15/bang-le-rafale-partait-en-interception,2007812.php

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FROM AFRICAN AEROSPACE APRIL/JUNE 2015

http://lignesdedefense.blogs.ouest-france.fr/archive/2015/07/09/l-entretien-d-un-atlantique-plus-onereux-que-celui-d-un-rafa-14434.html availabilty rate for rafale M 46.6% only I hope Bharat Crapnard is not seeing this taux de disponibilité des Rafale M de 46,6% seulement Je l'espère Bharat Crapnard ne voit pas ce CHEERS

may be you should say that to him as some dont think that way like you think http://indiandefence.com/threads/libyan-civil-war-airpower-report.54924/ CHEERS

regarding the RAND article i think the article is an usual Yankis smear campaign article against french wrong infos have been published 1) Only SA-8 sams were destroyed by RAFALe which might not be true as SA -3 & SA -6 sams were also destroyed by rafale 2) the article didnot mention about SCALP ALCM launched by rafale during those sead missions CHEERS

Here's how many planes the Royal Air Force has available to fight Isil Britain could carry out air strikes in Syria - but with what aircraft? 575 80 0 0 655 Email Militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) driving on a street at unknown location in the Salaheddin province, north of Baghdad Photo: Getty By Asa Bennett 12:42PM BST 03 Jul 2015 Follow Comments Britain could soon be launching air strikes against Isil in Syria within months. But as the defence budget won't be spared from the government's spending cuts drive, how easily could the RAF handle making this extra intervention? Using official figures, compiled by the Royal United Services Institute, we get a sense of how many planes Britain's air force has available to be called in for action at short notice. Some planes may not be immediately available for action though, being tied up in other engagements, or in other cases being repaired and upgraded. Here's how these planes break down in terms of availability. • Fraser Nelson: Strikes in Syria are meaningless if we keep slashing our military The Ministry of Defence can be coy about exact figures for security reasons, so figures like how many unmanned aerial "Reaper" drones there are rough estimates. However, some are already conducting strikes in Iraq and surveillance operations in Syria, so they're already proving their use. Despite the number of Eurofighters available for use, and their capability for air-to-ground warfare, they wouldn't be quite as useful as the other types of aircraft. Justin Bronk, a research analyst at RUSI, explains: "The Typhoon would be less flexible than the tornado because it can't use the brimstone missile, which is both extremely accurate and has low collateral." If Britain started air strikes on Isil in Syria, Bronk suggests it would expand where its existing airplanes were operating - looking at Tornado aircraft and Reaper drones - rather than devoting scores of new aircraft." "It would be a huge change for the RAF at the moment to significantly uplift what they're doing in the region." Eurofighter Typhoon The figures show that Britain has around 126 Eurofighter Typhoons in operation, with 40 of those available to be called up swiftly. 32 of those are based in the UK for domestic defence, while 4 of them are patrolling the Falklands, and a further 4 helping Nato's air-policing mission over the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. The Ministry of Defence has paid for 160 Typhoons in total, so it has yet to get its hands on estimated 40 more planes. Tornado aircraft What about the numbers of Panavia Tornado aircraft? The figures suggest Britain has around 104 of these planes, which it first used to back in the 1991 Gulf War. Some of them are now based in Cyprus, being used to conduct strikes on Isil extremists in Iraq. The Tornado fleet at RAF Marham, including those employed on operations overseas are organised in an aircraft pool from which air craft can be drawn, rather than permanently allotted to specific squadrons A Reaper If Britain decided to devote less manpower, it could use its fleet of Reaper drones to carry out air strikes on Isil in Syria. RUSI estimates we have around 12 of the drones, with 6 quickly availiable at any moment. Here is a longer list of the RAF's range of airpower, as released by ministers in a parliamentary answer back in 2012 . Aircraft type In-service fleet (no) C-17 7 Chinook Mk 2/2a and Mk 3 46 Hawk T1/T1A/T1W and T2 157 Hercules 32 King Air 5 Merlin Mk 3/3A 28 Puma 31 Sea King 25 Sentinel 5 Sentry 6 Tornado GR4 136 Tri-Star 8 Tucano 91 Typhoon 86 VC10 9 Vigilant 65 Viking T1 82 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11715604/Heres-how-many-planes-the-Royal-Air-Force-has-available-to-fight-Isil.html

Precision and Purpose: Airpower in the Libyan Civil War (Source: RAND Corporation; issued July 09, 2015) http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR600/RR676/RAND_RR676.pdf CHEERS

Thanks iborg p.S this thread was for english then why the hell people are posting in french as if this thread's french content post cant be translated in google by me :oops: CHEERS

serious article http://www.intelligenceonline.fr/intelligence-economique/2015/07/08/rafale-hal-et-ril-trop-gourmands-en-offset,108083215-BRE can anyone post the translated content in the the link in my signature or here it self http://www.air-defense.net/forum/topic/18806-rafale-and-other-european-jets-english-only/page-5 i wanna read it oops i forgot to post the same thing in french FRENCH article sérieux http://www.intelligenceonline.fr/intelligence-economique/2015/07/08/rafale-hal-et-ril-trop-gourmands-en-offset,108083215-BRE quelqu'un peut-il afficher le contenu traduit dans le le lien dans ma signature ou ici elle-même http://www.air-defense.net/forum/topic/18806-rafale-and-other-european-jets-english-only/page-5 CHEERS

Interesting find from KEY pub forum A single engine fighter concept of rafale for serbia interesting

GUYS need your help can you plz certify that this translation of mine from this pics are correct , if wrong plz correct it RAFALE IN INDIA NEW DELHI CAN NOT WAIT NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN DASSAULT HAL AND ARE IN NEUTRAL ON LOCAL PRODUCTION OF 108 UNITS. PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA, VISITS PARIS, JUST TO ANNOUNCE THE ACQUISITION OFF THE SHELF 36 RAFALE. Gone are the dark years for Dassault Rafale export . Egypt could have served as a trigger for the export of French flagship. After Cairo, New Delhi just voted for a shelf purchase of 36 French aircraft, no technology transfer. While the Team Rafale (Dassault, Thales, Safran) is exclusive negotiations with India for three years for the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Air-craft) for 126 Rafale, 108 products in India, the statement of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, on an official visit to the Elysee, April 10, surprised everyone. For India, the equation is simple: the negotiations between Dassault and New Delhi are blocked for months on the question of the liability of aircraft out of the local production chain, while the Air Force is in urgent need of new combat aircraft, "crucial", in the words of Minister of India. It must be said that the French Rafale should replace a very aging fleet of MiG-21 and MiG-27 dating from 1960-1970, which records a very high attrition rate. REGIONAL POWER. However, India, regional power, is facing a tense strategic context. There Pakistan, of course, that puts nemesis for applying and adapting F-16 performance, and that the territorial dispute over Kashmir is still open, but more importantly, there is China. Chinese expansionism deeply upset New Delhi. The two countries share more than 3,000 miles of land borders with areas of tension. But the war of power between the two most populous countries in the world is also played on the seas.The Chinese ships incursions in the Indian Ocean irritate New Delhi, who intends not to be done. In this, the Rafale will be a real strategic power tool. The reasons for the acquisition of the French Indian surprise hunter are there: to have a long-range strike capability, deterrant, mainly oriented towards China. Because, equipped with a type of Scalp cruise missile several hundred kilometers of reach, India, with the Rafale, is capable of striking deep cry inside Chinese territory..While in this air-sea configuration with an Exocet missile, the Indian Air Force will also act very effectively against any Chinese building intrusion into its territorial waters, and make the Indian Ocean remains India In this context, the statement of intent to acquire 36 fighters is not so surprising, corresponding to a 36 aircraft fleet. QUESTIONS. Still, this announcement raises many questions.At First, it is only a statement of intent. No contract is signed yet. State-to-state negotiations will open on the 36 rafale which will set the price, armaments or delivery. A contract could be signed this summer, although negotiations with the Indians are traditionally difficult. If, as a rule, the first deliveries occur three years after signing the contract, New Delhi might ask to shorten these deadlines.. But the big outstanding question is: what happens to trading on the 126 planes under negotiations for three years? If this first contract for 36 Rafale, no technology transfer is successful, will the MMRCA program be impacted . Because in the end, the need for the Indian Air Force remains. These first 36 jets will not allow India that wait without discredit, pending the arrival of a fleet of modern aircraft. . BREATH OF OXYGEN. For the French defense, the contract will be a breath of fresh oxygène.While it still lacks more than € 2 billion to balance the budget in 2015 of hosts, thanks to these deliveries, the Air Force could see its own deliveries pushed back in favor of those of the Indians, which would ease the French financial burden ... Three is "assured Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, about a possible sale of Rafale United Arab Emirates, on his return from a visit to Riyadh. But there is also Qatar and Malaysia ... The first sales of the Rafale could trigger other. For more interested customers sign later, the more they will have to wait to receive their jets... Guillaume Belan in the box part India does not give up making Rafale While the Indian Defense Ministry was negotiating with Dassault, it | will now discuss with the French Government for the purchase of additional aircraft beyond the 36 Rafale announced on 10 April. "Negotiation government to government is more suitable than the tendering procedure by" justified the Indian Defence Minister, Manohar Parrikar, on 13 April. New Delhi hopes to quickly finalize talks with Dassault hanging for three years. For now, the change of interlocutor does not change the terms of trading on the MMRCA contract. Interviewed by "Air & Cosmos," Sitanshu Kar, spokesman of the Indian Ministry of Defense does not exclude 108 aircraft Rafale are manufactured in India, as stipulated in the tender Initial. "India has not yet decided whether to buy other Rafale shelf or whether they will be assembled at home," he says. A point confirmed Laxman Behera, researcher and expert in "Procurement Code" at The Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, New Delhi Strategy: "The negotiation of government-to-government does not mean abandoning the production of Rafale in India . "Technology transfers are always possible. The researcher believes, however, that from now on, the French government, not Dassault, who will take responsibility for delays or manufacturing defect. MMRCA: challenges for local production EVEN IF INDIA DO NOT ABANDONED TO PRODUCE AN IDEA OF THE DAY BURST, PROCUREMENT ON SHELF 36 DEVICES DEMONSTRATE THAT SEEMS TO LOCAL INDUSTRY IS STILL MOVING TO PRODUCE THE HUNTER DASSAULT. The Indian aviation industry is progressing. This is the Eric Trappier, President of Dassault, and Pierre-Eric Poinmellet, de'finies Vice President, pounded on March 25 during delivery to the Indian Air Force First Mirage 2000 modernized. Progress, certainly, but still seem insufficient to ensure on-site production of such a complex device Rafale. In our preview edition of Aero India show, Stéphane Lauret, president of Safran India highlighted the problems related to qualified labour .He felt that there was such a real lack of adequate training for careers in aviation in India. The SUKHOI EXPERIENCE. India has, however, already licensed product of western aircraft such as the Jaguar. Today, industrial HAL (Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd) also produced locally Russian Su-30MKI. In both cases, same approach was adopted. Initially, the industry India has merely asembler subsets books by foreign industry before gradually increase its involvement in production of devices . If the Jaguar in the 1980s and in 1990 ended up being entirely locally made, there remains doubts about the real involvement of Indian industry in the production Su-30MKI. Even if the planes would currently produced fully in India, its level of complexity is not comparable to the Rafale.Indeed, the Flanker is a plane using mainly hydraulic mechanics. on the contrary, rafale is a plane using mainly electrical and electronic systems . To show the generational leap from Flanker and Rafale, we can highlight the board oxygen system. On board the Rafale, oxygen for the pilot is generated by a system boards, while the Sukhoi Su-30MKI is equipped with oxygen tanks. The onboard oxygen generation system increases the battery life but it is more complex to produce. POINT LOCK. The establishment of industrial resources necessary for Rafale production in India is very complex. As stated Eric Trappier, Dassault Rafale and partners team can build on their already ancient settlement and their local partners. But the scale of the Rafale license requires to expand greatly the cooperation with India. Dassault is ready to be involved much more in India, and agreements to this effect were found with HAL. The sticking point concerned the guarantee of the quality of the devices produced in India. Given the magnitude of the task, it is understood that the French manufacturer has been reluctant to take charge of the quality of these. The order for 36 Rafale products in France will allow India to quickly have a fully operational system, and so meet the needs of the Indian Air Force. It also saves time for possibly prepare the longer term production in India of French fighter. ■ Emmanuel Huberdeau

Ladies & gentlemen!! hold your breath The legendary Bharat Crapnard is back , this time more interesting arabian night fantasy stuff in his article Unexpected windfall for France with Rafale? .....This new turn of events, it may be deduced, was apparently something derived by the PMO that Narendra Modi, perhaps, assented to in line with MEA’s view that Paris needed to be mollified with bulk purchase of the Rafale to maintain goodwill with the French govt. Besides, it is a add-on to the initially floated proposal for some 24 Rafales bought off the shelf to stop the squawking about fast-depleting fighter squadrons by the IAF brass.This deduction because Parrikar’s MOD could not have turned around a full 180 degrees after the minister had shown his partiality for the Su-30MKI option, with the HAL Nasik produced aircraft available at around $80-$100 million per fully loaded plane. Now compare that with the $4bn India will be dishing out for 60 Rafales, i.e., at almost $50 million unit cost. Except this figure is just for the platform with no bells and whistles and no onboard armaments, and certainly no AESA radar. Once you begin totting up the costs for each of these items, the final bill for each of these Rafales would be nearer $200mn. For Dassault and France this is surely an unexpected windfall, something they could’t have possibly even imagined coming to pass, because Dassault gets to produce all these aircraft and no nonsense about TOT, etc involved by bringing HAL into the picture. The French combat aircraft industry pivoting on the Rafale, which was down to producing just 11 of these planes annually, will now be able to ramp up production and keep itself in the clover for another 8-10 years thanks to the infernally stupid decision by the GOI. ....... http://bharatkarnad.com/2015/04/10/unexpected-windfall-for-france-with-rafale/ i think he also forgot to add jet fuel , pilots salary & G suit ,HMD, rafale's paint & tyres , then it would become 300Mn $ for each rafale .Is in't Mr B.Crapnard Thats why B.Crapnard is so awesome in the field of defence journalism CHEERS

COngrats to Dassault aviation & IAF on signing the deal for RAFALE . CHEERS