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An old article but great info about GaN T/R modules & AESA radar ofcourse relating to EUROPE RADAR REVOLUTION

Canada's Fighter Non-Decision Decision In the words of Geddy Lee (of the progressive rock band Rush, if you didn’t listen to FM radio in the ‘70s and ‘80s), “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” This certainly applies to the Canadian government’s latest move with its long-awaited and controversial fighter buy. The government’s decision to kick the country’s next fighter purchase down the road actually guarantees the outcome the Harper government wants. Last week, Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that the country’s 30 year old F/A-18A/B Hornet (CF-18 in Canada) fleet would receive another upgrade, pushing out the replacement fighter buy for another few years, after the next election. CF-18 retirement will be moved from 2020 to 2025. Ostensibly, this CF-18 upgrade decision was made in order to get past the political controversy associated with Harper’s efforts to buy Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighters in a sole-source decision, and move the problem of which fighter to buy to the next government. In reality, the move puts the decision off until the F-35’s strongest competitor is off the market. Boeing ’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is easily the most important competitor to the F-35 in Canada. It would be a relatively easy transition from the baseline Hornet (although the Super Hornet is a somewhat different plane). It offers very good value for the price (around $55 million unit recurring flyaway, compared with around $100 million for today’s F-35A). It’s also a twinjet, an option that Canada has historically preferred. Yet in the next year or two, the Super Hornet production line will start to die. The US Navy and Australia are scheduled to take the last EA-18G Growlers (a Super Hornet variant) in 2016/2017. Unless another customer buys more Super Hornets, this option will be off the table for Canada. Not long after, the Eurofighter, F-15, and F-16 lines will close too. The only surviving fighter options, Dassault’s Rafale and Saab’s Gripen NG (along with Russian planes) would be very unlikely choices for Canada. Therefore, an F-35 acquisition will be a fait accompli. The fighter buy represents a much broader foreign policy debate for Canada. An F-35 decision makes sense if Canada thinks its future defense policy revolves around coalition warfighting capabilities. Canada’s recent decision to join US-led air strikes against ISIL forces shows that the Harper Government believes this to be the case. By contrast, buying an older and less expensive plane (like the Super Hornet) would be more sensible if Canada viewed its future defense policy as one of national sovereignty maintenance. This would involve airspace patrols, maritime patrols, and an effectively defensive posture. However, last week’s CF-18 upgrade decision effectively ends any debate here. And given the parsimonious nature of this move, an otherwise controversial outcome will be accomplished with minimal debate. http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardaboulafia/2014/10/14/canadas-fighter-non-decision-decision/

the point which i want to ask which one is better a Towed decoy or an expendables decoy like LEA/Britecloud i have brief idea about Typhoon's towed decoy but the point is which is effective against HOJ mode of Radar guided missiles TOWED OR EXPENDABLES RADAR DECOYS I would prefer the latter why? not becoz Rafale is not having it but to break a missile lock on HOJ mode you need to dispense your RADAR decoys at faster rate from your parent aircraft as quickly as possible if you want to break the missile lock effectively or else missile's warhead blast radius can also do considerable damage if they come nearby your plane So Towed radar decoys demerits are 1)it is attached by fiber optic cable so it takes time to release the DECOY completely as compare to expendables radar decoys which can be crucial during a closein /terminal phase missile with mACh 4 speed or higher 2) limited number of RADAR decoys can be carried on towed RADAR decoys meanwhile atleast you can carry 4 expendables Radar decoys So Rafale/gripen did a wise thing on investing on expendables Radar decoys which even LUCA PERUZZI from ARMADA article also claims 3) last but not the least COST towed decoy is damn costly plus cumbersome to maintain with other electronic system side by side with it like ESM/ ECM suites in case of typhoon another good article about jamming aspect is this must read for defence enthusiasts http://www.asiapacificdefencereporter.com/articles/137/Defensive-aids-systems-electronic-armour CHEERS

need help can anyone plz translate what is written here in the red part ? CHEERS

Things India & France needs to codevelop keeping Rafale in mind 1) New low cost & low size PGM like Spear3 with range of 140/150km for future SEAD missions / Anti armour missions 2) DIRCM for fighter size aeroplanes like Rafale/even indian FFGA with THALES 3) integrated avionics /working structure for joint functioning of INDIAN AURA UCAVS / french Neuron in rafale planes through it's cockpit in post 2020 Many more things are also there like HMD/ enclosed weapon pods /CFT/Conformal arrays but these things which i meantioned would give rafale an edge in future combat for both the countries 8) BTW "why cant france share GaN tech with india" india should insist france to share that tech with us CHEERS

so it indirectly means for MLU not for F3R Why the hell are you saying that?? do you have any doubts on that CHEERS

so most probably it's not for F3R i think it is planned for MLU i.e 2025 + one more thing PIC would the indians be getting rbe 2 aesa radar with electronic attack capabilty or we have to content with basic RBE2 aesa radar & btw would the Thales & BEL joint venture be building radar for rafale CHEERS

Bonjour thanks for answering but would this happen in RBE 2 aesa radar only in the radome or in conformal part (i.e Wings & fuselarge) of rafale but if we see other fighters like russian fighters eg Su 30 derivatives / MIg 29 can carry 12 air to air missiles or even Typhoon they can carry 10 air to air missiles but rafale 2 center line weapon pods under fuselarge has not been sanctioned to carry air to air missiles in later variants unlike the earliear models atleast if they could sanction those 2 pods under fuselarge it could carry 10 air to air missiles CHEERS

THALES AWARDED WITH A STUDY CONTRACT FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF ACTIVE ARRAY RADARS September 30, 2014 KEY POINTS Thales awarded a technology demonstrator contract for the next generation of active phrased array radars. These technologies will ultimately equip the Rafale and will be suitable for future unmanned combat air vehicles. The French defence procurement agency (DGA) has awarded Thales a technology study contract for the next generation of active phased array radars, including modular processors and multifunction panel technologies. These new technologies will ultimately equip the Rafale combat aircraft and will be suitable for future unmanned combat air vehicles (UCAVs). During the signing ceremony held on 29 September in the presence of Laurent Collet-Billon, Head of the DGA, Jean-Bernard Lévy, Thales’s Chairman and CEO wished to highlight the "strong support of the DGA in maintaining a French sector of excellence in the field of airborne radars. With this technology study contract, Thales will maintain its lead in the field of active radar antennas, which is essential for the future of defence aerospace. " Under the advanced study contract, Thales will demonstrate the technological readiness of various components and design a new generation of multifunction arrays (radar, electronic warfare and communications). The new arrays will also significantly improve range capabilities and discretion. Over the next four years approximately 100 Thales staff, will be involved in these studies alongside a number of SME’s which have already contributed to the development of the Rafale active phased array radar. https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/aerospace/press-release/thales-awarded-study-contract-next-generation-active-array-radars https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/pr_140930_dga_thales_active_antenna_radar.pdf

MUlti functional array means what ?? normal radar function plus passive radar & electronic jamming /attack or in multiple arrays like Xband / L band radar array plus why cant they create muti pylons in case of air to air missiles that would increase the number of air to air missiles they can carry in absolute air superiority missions / CAS / Air escort missions to 12 CHEERS

PIC one naive question can these pods carry 3 air to air missiles ?? If no then does france have any pods which can carry 2/3 air to air missiles like these . CHEERS

pic can you please give little detail about what those 2 programs mean ??? what new things are they saying basically ?? multi functional panel what does that mean basically new calculator ???? CHEERS

DGA launches studies on next-generation active radar antenna Delegate General for Armaments, Laurent Collet-Billon, officially presented today at Jean-Bernard Levy, CEO of Thales, a technology education contract for the next generation of active antenna radar. This project aims to demonstrate the technology multifunction panels and new scalable architectures calculator. These new antennas are designed to equip forward the Rafale fighter and future projects of air combat drones. Representing 89 million over several years, this investment demonstrates the effort devoted by the state to maintain the technological lead of the French defense industry, particularly in the field of military aviation. After making their first European with active antenna radar serial Rafale, France intends to maintain its leading position in the field of airborne radars. These studies will demonstrate the maturity of components and achieve multifunction antenna (radar, electronic warfare and communications). These new antennas will also offer a significant advantage in terms of scope and discretion of the aircraft and will maintain the highest level of technology the French combat aviation industry. DGA invests in the industry on average € 730 million / year in preliminary studies during the 2014-2019 military program Act. Google Translate will it be included in F3R or Rafale's MLU

€ 89 million euros to develop the future radar "RAFALE" While Rafale operate for several days over Iraq, the Directorate General of Armaments (DGA) has ordered the Thales group studies of a new generation of active antenna radar designed to equip the aircraft French and the future air combat drone; whose drone nEUROn demonstrator continues its flight testing, especially from the Istres Provençal base. According to the Ministry of Defence, this market of 89 million euros aims to demonstrate the relevance of technology multifunction panels and new modular architecture of computers. France, which in 2012 was the first European country to commission a fighter equipped with radar -the active antenna Rafale-, intends to maintain its technological lead in this area. Particularly discreet and with a very good resistance to interference, this type of radar can track include air or naval targets moving more than 200 miles away. https://translate.google.co.in/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.laprovence.com/actu/leco-en-direct/3061449/89-m%25E2%2582%25AC-deuros-pour-developper-le-futur-radar-du-rafale.html&edit-text=&act=url Picdelamirand-oil prof.566 is this translation error or this new radar would have range of more than 200 miles CHEERS

well thanks again but like i said in that thread any news about SPECTRA GaN prototype to be fielded in 2014 Have any news yet CHEERS

LOLLZZ :oops: :P http://wayback.archive.org/web/20130411202313/http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/paris-air-show-rafales-fighting-chance-327206/ i know that article PIC, i was just asking bruno for any latest update on GaN prototype to be fielded in 2014 only But anyways thanks as usual :D CHEERS

Ok lets start this thread with a good news for rafale Rafale deal may be signed by Dec 24 September 2014, New Delhi, Pinaki Bhattacharya Indian government’s contract negotiation committee (CNC) for the medium, multirole combat aircraft (MMRCA), Rafale, has been given the draft contract document by the French aircraft manufacturer, Dassault. A top level Indian Air Force (IAF) source, while confirming this, said that they expect that the deal could be signed by December this year. Long in negotiations, the contract is in the final stages of price fixing, the official said. According to him, the CNC will arrive at two prices at the end of talks. One will be ‘direct’ price, which will be actual cost of whole 126 aircraft the IAF plans to get – 18 in flyaway condition directly from Dassault, and 108 produced under licence by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL). The other is Life Cycle Costing (LCC), which will cover the whole life of the aircraft in service with the IAF. This would include maintenance cost, overhauling costs among others. The IAF sources complained about efforts by some Indians to sow doubts and make the IAF leadership ‘weak-kneed’ by publicising wrong information in sections of the media ‘at the behest of a foreign competitor’. The other key element of the deal is the licence manufacture deal between Dassault and the HAL. There were large number of issues that were technology related. A senior HAL source stated: ‘Now those issues have been boiled down to two or three. They would also be taken care of soon.’ One gets a sense from all these conversations, that the IAF has got a signal from the political leadership of the government that it is now on more than ‘a wing and a prayer’. In other words, the force has got a green signal from the government to go ahead with the deal. The senior official said that since the LCC has been in negotiation for the MMRCA, the same formula has been applied to 19 other vendors, including the Russians, and none of them had complained about the sanctity of the LCC. ‘Any of them could have taken us to court, if we were in the wrong.’ The first air assets that have been delivered under the LCC formula have been the Basic Trainer Aircraft (BTA), the Pilatus PC 7. They are already flying in large numbers. ‘We were sure that we were in the right track when ministry of finance cleared our pricing, and it was sent to the Cabinet Committee on Security,’ the official said. http://www.millenniumpost.in/NewsContent.aspx?NID=70065

so does it mean i cant post in this thread now right !!! ce que cela signifie si je ne peux pas poster dans ce thread maintenant droit !!! CHEERS

Ok boss !! it wont be repeated here Ok patron !! elle ne sera pas répétée ici CHEERS

bruno any extra info can you provide on DEDIRA program even if it can be also french article Plus will F3R SPECTRA NG would have GaN modules in 2018 ??? BTW are you also journo in Air fan magazine :D CHEERS

any links or source to back those claims it would be posted in my rafale's mini encyclopedia thread CHEERS

LOLLZ exactly people in indian forums dont understand those facts & ignore it when Typhoon consortium are offering 3 billion euros discount on 20 billion dollar deal . They are just having waters in their mouth by seeing such huge discounts. I have said the same thing if we buy Typhoon many of the systems we gonna have to fund from our own pockets 1) AESA radar 2) CFTs 3) Air to ground capabilties Plus life cycle costs of typhoon is higher than Rafale itself when we fund those systems after buying it those discounts would vanish in long run LOLLZ exactement les gens dans les forums indien ne comprends pas ces faits et l'ignorer lorsque le typhon consortium offrent € 3000000000 réduction sur contrat de 20 milliards de dollars. Ils sont juste possédant des eaux dans leur bouche en voyant ces énormes rabais. J'ai dit la même chose si nous achetons Typhoon de nombreux systèmes nous va devoir financer de nos propres poches 1) radar AESA 2) CFT 3) Air à capabilties au sol De plus les coûts du cycle de vie du typhon est plus élevé que le Rafale se quand nous finançons ces systèmes après l'achat de ces réductions disparaîtrait à la longue CHEERS

i think you are correct but the moderators & admins should help me to find a solution for eg create a thread like english translation of french articles where i could post such kind of articles . Yeah this is really annoying for some i can understand with this translation request ,But i cant go on private messaging each member in this forum to do translation for every articles . OCR is not accurate i have tried it so meaningless for someone to advise me try OCR for translation FRENCH je pense que vous avez raison mais les modérateurs et les administrateurs devraient m'aider à trouver une solution par exemple pour créer un thread comme la traduction en anglais d'articles français où je pourrais poster ce genre d'articles. Ouais c'est vraiment gênant pour certains, je peux comprendre cette demande de traduction, Mais je ne peux pas aller sur la messagerie privée de chaque membre de ce forum pour faire la traduction pour tous les articles. OCR n'est pas exacte, j'ai essayé tellement de sens pour quelqu'un pour me conseiller essayer OCR pour la traduction CHEERS

Is the translation correct or some errors looks still there this OCR is not accurate everytime when you use google translate i have an optical character reader software ABBY Fine reader software but when you translate the sentence looks absurd thats why i take the help of people with proper knowledge of english & french both FRENCH Est la traduction correcte ou des erreurs semble toujours là ce n'est pas à chaque fois OCR précise lorsque vous utilisez google translate j'ai un ABBY logiciel Fine logiciel lecteur optique lecteur de caractère mais lorsque vous traduisez la phrase a l'air absurde c'est pourquoi je prends l'aide des personnes bonne connaissance de l'anglais et français à la fois CHEERS

http://s25.postimg.org/7k0kykp4f/M88_evolutions.jpg http://s25.postimg.org/6vrqfmqen/m88_evolution2.jpg interesting info about M88 engines can anyone translate this into english CHEERS