Armée de l'Air du Qatar

[eikkN]

Plus cher qu'un Rafale qui embarque une technologie de trés haut niveau et des moteurs qui coutent un bras, ça te choque pas?

 

Plus cher qu'un Rafale sûrement pas, mais d'après un rapport du Sénat datant de 2013 le coût d'un NH-90 TTH* est évalué à €28.6 millions d'où ma question. 

Modifié le 27 mars 2014 par eikkN

[Chris.]

Avec support et tout ce qui va avec sauf erreur, sans compter qu'il y a environ 50% de NFH dans le lot*. En Suisse on devait être à plus de 3 milliards pour 22 Rafale et support, par exemple.

 

* pour être précis 12 TTH et 10 NFH; et les NFH sont relativement chers: plus de 40 millions pièce (et ce n'est pas une spécificité du NH90 NFH puisque le MH-60R est aussi dans ces eaux là...).

Modifié le 27 mars 2014 par Chris.

[syntaxerror9]

Plus cher qu'un Rafale sûrement pas, mais d'après un rapport du Sénat datant de 2013 le coût d'un NH-90 TTH* est évalué à €28.6 millions d'où ma question. 

J'ai pas dit cela et c'est toi même qui avance le fait que ça fait cher!

J'ai répondu à clem qui ne trouvait pas ça cher 22 NH-90 pour 2 milliards d'euros.

Bien sur, que c'est pas le prix des hélicos seuls (si ces chiffres sont exacts), il doit y avoir tout un tas de trucs en plus.

Et si ces chiffres sont les bons et qu'il n'y a pas de pièces détachées ou/et la maintenance dedans, ça nous les met à 90 millions d'euros pièce, donc plus cher qu'un Rafale ou qu'un Airbus A-320!!! Ce qui est impossible.

 

Mais une fois de plus, les contrats d'armement ne sont jamais limpides en terme de prix.

Rien n'est comparable si on a pas les contrats sous les yeux; et encore...

Modifié le 27 mars 2014 par syntaxerror9

[clem200]

Pour moi il est moins chère qu'un Rafale (moins de 100M ??) et la comparaison avec un avion civile d'entrée de gamme produit en grande série depuis 20 ans n'a pas grand intérêt.

 

Après c'est très chère mais j'ai pas bondi au plafond en lisant le prix quoi.

[mgtstrategy]

Pas la peine de vous enflammer, a tous les coups, ils ont vendus 22 rafales sans le savoir....et le journaliste a juste mal restranscrit

[Chris.]

Pour moi il est moins chère qu'un Rafale (moins de 100M ??) et la comparaison avec un avion civile d'entrée de gamme produit en grande série depuis 20 ans n'a pas grand intérêt.

 

Après c'est très chère mais j'ai pas bondi au plafond en lisant le prix quoi.

 

Un NH 90 TTH ou un NH90 NFH "Soutien" c'est 30-35 millions d'euros (prix français)

Un NH90 NFH "Combat" C'est un peu plus de 40 millions d'euros (prix français)

http://www.senat.fr/rap/a12-150-8/a12-150-814.html#toc158

 

Un MH60R (juste pour comparer) c'est presque 45 millions de dollars, et un MH-60S légèrement en dessous de 30 millions.

 

Bref, 2 milliards pour 22 hélicos, ça comprend forcément le support et/ou des pièces détachées, et c'est totalement logique...

Modifié le 27 mars 2014 par Chris.

[g4lly]

Il n'y a qu'un NFH NH90. La seule chose qui change entre les deux "variante" ce sont le montage ou pas des kit sonar - le sonar trempé lui meme avec le treuil et tout le tralala, plus le lanceur de bouée, le ratelier a bouée, etc. -, kits qui sont facturés a part. Amusant que ce soit présenté comme ca dans les documents du Sénat. D'ailleurs les kits sonar ont fait l'objet d'une acquisition séparé, et le nombre a été réduit il me semble - ca correspond au 7 M€ d'écart -.

On remarque qu'en un an le prix du TTH a pris 10%!!!

http://www.senat.fr/rap/a12-150-8/a12-150-814.html#toc158

Le NH90 se décline en deux versions très différentes l'une de l'autre : une version terrestre dite « TTH » (tactical transport helicopter) pour le transport tactique, pour l'armée de terre, et une version marine dite « NFH » (NATO frigate helicopter), destinée à la lutte anti-surface et anti-sous-marine, mais aussi au transport et aux missions de service public, de sauvegarde et de sauvetage.

Le coût total du programme est de 8 397 M€2012 TTC. Les coûts unitaires moyens sont de 29,6 M€2012 pour le TTH et de 42 M€2012 pour le NFH version combat et 35,3 M€2012 pour le NFH version soutien.

http://www.senat.fr/rap/a13-158-8/a13-158-813.html#toc178

Le NH90 se décline en deux versions très différentes l'une de l'autre : une version terrestre dite « TTH » (tactical transport helicopter) pour le transport tactique, pour l'armée de terre, et une version marine dite « NFH » (NATO frigate helicopter), destinée à la lutte anti-surface et anti-sous-marine, mais aussi au transport et aux missions de service public, de sauvegarde et de sauvetage.

Le coût total du programme est de 8 645 M€2013 TTC. Les coûts unitaires moyens (hors développement et moyens de soutien) sont de 28,6 M€2013 pour le TTH et de 43,3 M€2013 pour le NFH version combat et 36,4 M€2012 pour le NFH version soutien.

[Picdelamirand-oil]

Sinon presque €2 milliards pour 22 NH-90 ça ne choque personne? même avec du support et des équipements spécifiques ça fait beaucoup. 

ET ça

 

En attendant, les Etats-Unis ont aussi été servis puisque Boeing va vendre 24 hélicoptères d’attaque Apache pour 8,9 milliards de dollars.

http://www.lesechos.fr/entreprises-secteurs/air-defense/actu/0203402880249-le-qatar-s-offre-pour-23-milliards-de-dollars-d-armement-660270.php

Cela ne vous parait pas encore plus fou?

[syntaxerror9]

Oui c'est fou quand on y pense!

Tant de milliards pour si peu d'appareils qui ne servent qu'à détruire d'autres biens matériels et humains, ça fait drôle quand même.

(Bien sur, ça sert à la défense nationale et bla bla bla... )

Modifié le 28 mars 2014 par syntaxerror9

[alexandreVBCI]

Je me demande combien on peu avoir de manpad dernier modèle pour une telle somme.  Dépenser autant d'argent pour des appareils qui peuvent être détruits par des missiles AA mille fois moins cher.

[pascal]

Ben non justement une partie du prix s'explique par le très haut niveau des contre-mesures électroniques, des détecteurs de départ missiles et des lances leurres ... faut pas non plus les prendre pour des cons.

 

En plus l'expérience montre que souvent dans le Golfe ces prix englobent les appareils, le soutien technique (assuré souvent par des techniciens de société privées telles AIRCO) et les rechanges sur 30 ans plus l'armement ...

[Picdelamirand-oil]

Oui c'est fou quand on y pense!

Tant de milliards pour si peu d'appareils qui ne servent qu'à détruire d'autres biens matériels et humains, ça fait drôle quand même.

(Bien sur, ça sert à la défense nationale et bla bla bla... )

Cela fait quand même 371 000 000 $ l'unité.

[Picdelamirand-oil]

Ben non justement une partie du prix s'explique par le très haut niveau des contre-mesures électroniques, des détecteurs de départ missiles et des lances leurres ... faut pas non plus les prendre pour des cons.

 

En plus l'expérience montre que souvent dans le Golfe ces prix englobent les appareils, le soutien technique (assuré souvent par des techniciens de société privées telles AIRCO) et les rechanges sur 30 ans plus l'armement ...

Oui mais c'est plus cher qu'un F 35!

[Chris.]

Oui mais c'est plus cher qu'un F 35!

 

Plus cher qu'un F-35 nu sans armement, soutien, pièces détachées, etc.

 

Faut comparer ce qui est comparable, parce que sinon je peux aussi dire:

c'est scandaleux, la France a voulu nous vendre (à la Suisse) des Rafale à 141 millions de dollars pièce (3.4 milliards de CHF pour la 1ère offre de Dassault pour 22 appareils), à ce prix là on aurait presque pu avoir des F-35 furtifs et de la mort qui tue qui à "juste" 150 millions de dollars pièce...

Sauf que d'un coté on parle d'un paquetage complet, alors que de l'autre on parle de l'achat d'un appareil nu...

Modifié le 28 mars 2014 par Chris.

[Picdelamirand-oil]

Plus cher qu'un F-35 nu sans armement, soutien, pièces détachées, etc.

 

Faut comparer ce qui est comparable, parce que sinon je peux aussi dire:

c'est scandaleux, la France a voulu nous vendre (à la Suisse) des Rafale à 141 millions de dollars pièce (3.4 milliards de CHF pour la 1ère offre de Dassault pour 22 appareils), à ce prix là on aurait presque pu avoir des F-35 furtifs et de la mort qui tue qui à "juste" 150 millions de dollars pièce...

Sauf que d'un coté on parle d'un paquetage complet, alors que de l'autre on parle de l'achat d'un appareil nu...

 

Plus cher qu'un F-35 nu sans armement, soutien, pièces détachées, etc.

 

Faut comparer ce qui est comparable, parce que sinon je peux aussi dire:

c'est scandaleux, la France a voulu nous vendre (à la Suisse) des Rafale à 141 millions de dollars pièce (3.4 milliards de CHF pour la 1ère offre de Dassault pour 22 appareils), à ce prix là on aurait presque pu avoir des F-35 furtifs et de la mort qui tue qui à "juste" 150 millions de dollars pièce...

Sauf que d'un coté on parle d'un paquetage complet, alors que de l'autre on parle de l'achat d'un appareil nu...

Non c'était plus cher que le paquetage complet F 35! D'ailleurs c'est une erreur des echos, j'ai vu sur une autre source que le prix était 8.9 billion riyals ce qui fait 2.46 milliards $.

Modifié le 28 mars 2014 par Picdelamirand-oil

[Picdelamirand-oil]

Fais les comptes, il manque une dizaine de milliards... Ou iront ils?

3 Boeing 737 Airborne early warning and control (AEW&C), des patriots...

[French Kiss]

C'est du delire, s'il leur reste 3 sous, je peux peut-etre leur demander de m'offrir un TBM-800 et les qualifs qui vont avec

[prof.566]

N'est plus en production, TBM900 svp ;)

[fox49]

quelqu'un a faim et le Qatar est sur la table :

 

http://www.franceculture.fr/emission-les-enjeux-internationaux-peninsule-arabique-visite-du-president-obama-a-riyad-une-relation 

[Gravity]

La modernisation militaire du Qatar se constitue progressivement en coordination avec celle de ses homologues de KSA, des UAE et du Koweït sur l’architecture matrice de la ‘Peninsula Shield Force’ entièrement intégrée - Commandement militaire des Royaumes du GCC -.

 

Ces équipements seront utilisés et déployer au fur et à mesure partout dans les pays du GCC. Le Qatar introduit ces armes après une série d'entretiens avec leurs homologues militaires dans les États du GCC. La doctrine qui s’esquisse est que tous les États (GCC) doivent fonctionner avec autant d'équipements similaires que possible ou en mesure d'être aisément assimilé par les autres membres.

 

 

$23.9B in Deals Announced on Last Day of DIMDEX

 

Mar. 27, 2014 - 03:45AM  

By AWAD MUSTAFA

 

DOHA, QATAR — The Qatari Armed Forces today announced deals with US weapons manufactures worth US $7.6 billion, including Apache helicopters, Javelin missiles and PAC 3 Patriot systems.

 

The deals, announced at the Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition (DIMDEX), came in a string of announcements publicized on the last day of the show totaling 87 billion Qatar rials (US$23.9 billion), which included 17 Turkish fast patrol vessels and German tankers.

 

The agreements signed by the Qatar Armed Forces included more than 20 contractors, according to the show organizers, involving tanks, artillery, missiles and warships from different countries, including France, Germany, China, Turkey and the US.

 

Boeing announced the sale of three 737 airborne early warning and control aircraft, and France’s Defence Ministry said Qatar had agreed to buy 22 NH90 military helicopters from a unit of Airbus for €2 billion euros ($2.76 billion) and two Airbus A330 MRTT refueling tankers.

 

Lockheed Martin and Raytheon will provide Patriot configuration-3 modernized fire units and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support, according to a request to Congress presented by the Defense Security Cooperation Agency on Nov. 6, 2012.

 

The PAC 3 systems include radar sets, engagement control systems, antenna mast groups, launching stations, missiles and test missiles, multifunctional information distribution systems/low volume terminals, communications equipment, training, spares and related logistical support.

 

According to the DSCA, the Patriot systems will improve Qatar’s missile defense capability, strengthen homeland defense and deter regional threats. The sale also will enhance Qatar’s interoperability with the US and its allies.

 

Boeing, Lockheed Martin, General Electric and Raytheon were awarded a deal for the acquisition of AH-64D Apache Block III Longbow attack helicopters and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support at the cost of $2.4 billion.

 

According to a DSCA notification to Congress presented on July 10, 2012, the government of Qatar requested the sale of 24 Apaches, 56 engines, 27 target acquisition and designation sights, 27 night vision sensors, fire control radars, missile warning systems, radars and other equipment.

 

The request included 60 Hellfire missile launchers, 576 Hellfire II missiles, 295 Stinger Block I missiles, 50 Stinger air-to-air launchers, Hydra rockets and 90 Apache aviator integrated helmets.

 

Other equipment includes countermeasure flares, training devices, helmets, simulators, and other support, test and logistical equipment.

 

According to the DSCA, this sale will aid US foreign policy and national security by helping improve the security of a friendly country that is host to the US Central Command forces and serves as a critical forward-deployed location in the region.

 

The agency added in its notification to Congress that acquisition of these helicopters will allow for integration with US forces for training exercises.

 

The Qatari Armed Forces need to replace aging airframes with multimission attack helicopters capable of meeting requirements for close air support, armed reconnaissance and anti-tank warfare missions.

 

According to a senior officer in Qatar’s National Security Shield Project, the helicopters will provide a long-term defensive and offensive capability and enhance the protection of key oil and gas infrastructure.

 

Raytheon and Lockheed Martin were awarded contracts to supply 500 Javelin missiles and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $122 million. On March 28 last year, Qatar requested 500 Javelins, 50 command launch units, and associated equipment, spares, support and training.

 

Lockheed also was awarded a five-year training contract for the Qatar Emiri Air Force Academy.

 

Defense News

 

Saudi national guard air wing takes shape

 

 

 

Jeremy Binnie, London and Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

16 December 2013

 

Key Points:

 

- The SANG has ordered AH-64E and AH-6i attack helicopters and the construction of its new airbase is well under way

 

- Saudi Arabia will have the third largest number of Apaches in service after the US and UK

 

 

The Saudi Arabia National Guard (SANG) is quietly making progress on establishing a new aviation wing that will give it a ground-attack capability to rival that of the Royal Saudi Land Forces (RSLF).

The SANG's aviation plans were outlined in October 2010, when the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) notified Congress of a proposed sale of 36 Boeing AH-64D Block III (now known as the AH-64E) Apache attack helicopters, 36 Boeing AH-6i light attack helicopters, 12 MD Helicopters Inc (MDHI) MD 530F light helicopters, and 72 Sikorsky UH-60M Black Hawk utility helicopters.

 

The SANG's requirements have firmed up since then and now consist of 12 AH-64E Apaches, 24 AH-6is and 24 UH-60M Black Hawks, according to a solicitation that was released by the US Federal Business Opportunities (FBO) website in March asking for companies to bid for the contract to support and maintain the aircraft.

 

The documentation said the SANG's AH-6is - an improved version of the armed Little Birds used by US special forces - will be able to carry AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, laser-guided 70 mm Directional Attack Guided Rockets (DAGRs), a 12.7 mm GAU 19 heavy machine gun, a 7.62 mm M134 Minigun and auxiliary fuel tanks to increase their range. Eight of the Black Hawks will be fitted with forward-looking infrared systems that will enable them to fly in low-visibility conditions.

 

The FBO solicitation added that the helicopters will be stationed at Khashm al-An Airfield: presumably a reference to a new airbase that is being constructed near the eastern Riyadh suburb of the same name.

 

Satellite imagery shows that work on the facility began in 2011 and it now has a 2,000 m paved runway and taxiway for fixed-wing aircraft. Imagery from 30 November shows that 24 aircraft shelters have been constructed and there is space for at least another 24. There are three large structures being constructed behind the aircraft shelters that will probably be the hangars for the three maintenance battalions noted in the FBO solicitation.

 

The documentation said the contractor would be required to sustain a flying programme of 100 hours a year per aircraft and should be prepared to support a surge up to 200 hours. It would also be expected to support SANG deployments to areas of Saudi Arabia beyond Khashm al-An and to other countries, although not conflict zones.

 

The SANG intends to build another airfield at Dirab to the southwest of Riyadh, according to another FBO solicitation released in May seeking contractors to provide navigation aids and air traffic control equipment for the SANG. The documentation suggests this facility will also be capable of handling fixed-wing aircraft, but the available satellite imagery suggests construction has yet to begin.

 

None of the helicopter manufacturers have confirmed they have received orders for the SANG, but at least some of the contracts have been finalised. Boeing announced during the Dubai Airshow in November that it had received an AH-6i order for an undisclosed customer. IHS Jane's understands that this covered the delivery of 24 AH-6is to the SANG.

 

Meanwhile, the US Department of Defense (DoD) indicated that the SANG's Apache programme was under way when it announced in January 2012 that it had awarded a contract to Lockheed Martin Fire Control to supply AH-64D target acquisition and night vision systems for the SANG. The contract's completion date was given as 31 March 2015.

 

Since then, there have been various contract announcements related to Saudi Apaches, but the situation is confusing as the RSLF also has an Apache requirement and the DoD rarely identifies which branch of the Saudi military is involved.

 

Nevertheless, the announcements suggest the RSLF and SANG programmes are proceeding simultaneously: an assertion corroborated by a source who told IHS Jane's that Boeing has orders for 36 AH-64Es for the RSLF in addition to the 12 for the SANG. If the Saudi Royal Guard orders the 10 AH-64Es that it requested in 2010, Saudi Arabia will overtake the UK as the largest Apache operator outside the United States.

 

While there was no mention of contracts covering the SANG's Black Hawks, in July 2012 the DoD announced that MDHI had been awarded a contract to supply MD 530Fs to an unspecified branch of the Saudi military by July 2013.

 

Derived from the same platform as the AH-6i, these would make ideal training helicopters for the SANG's nascent air wing. However, the fact that the SANG's new bases had not been finished by the MD 530F contract's completion date and that the type was not mentioned in the FBO maintenance solicitation suggests these have been delivered to the RSLF.

 

 

IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

 

Saudi Arabia to Order 180 New Helicopters for a New National Guard Aviation Regiment

 

Riyadh to Invest up to $60 Billion Modernizing Airpower with U.S. Systems

 

 

Saudi Arabia Boosts Its National Guard With Anti-Tank Missiles

 

12/21/2013

 

Despite the rift between Riyadh and Washington, D.C. Over the US’ inaction over Syria, the leading Gulf state remains an important customer for US-made weapons.

 

This month, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA), which oversees arms deals with US allies, announced selling TOW missiles to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

 

According to two separate press releases published on December 5, Saudi Arabia is paying $1.07 billion for:

 

- 10,650 BGM-71 2A

 

- 4,895 BGM-71 2B

 

- 98 Fly-to-Buy TOW 2A

 

- 56 Fly-to-Buy TOW 2B

 

 

This totals 15,699 missiles including parts and components. The recipients include the Saudi land forces with the bulk of the missiles going to the National Guard

 

The deal will be put under consideration by the US Congress.

 

The TOW system, spelled out as Tube-Launched Optically-Tracked Wire-Guided, was introduced in 1970. It featured a large missile fired from a recoilless rifle’s launch tube that can be mounted on either a tripod or different vehicles. First deployed in Vietnam, the TOW would prove itself for the next 40 years and become an export success among US allies.

 

The TOW became the center of controversy during the Iran-Contra scandal and saw combat in Iraq from 2003 onward.

 

The Concerned

 

The DSCA’s announcement was met with some alarm by the US media. Many have written how this missile purchase is connected to Saudi Arabia’s less-than-subtle backing of hardline Syrian militias fighting against Bashar Al-Assad’s regime in Damascus. Yet little evidence supports this assumption.

 

Saudi Arabia’s efforts in Syria are being led by Prince bin Sultan, the current head of its intelligence apparatus and a key patron of the Afghan mujahideen in the 1980s.

 

More importantly, the TOW purchase comes at a time when Saudi Arabia is rearming its military, which has two factions: the National Guard and the regular armed forces.

 

The National Guard is a 100,000-strong force controlled by the royal family and equipped with small arms and some 1,000 LAV-25 amphibious APCs. It’s also undergoing a $4 billion rearmament with the help of the DSCA. The DSCA’s local partner in this project is the government-owned Vinnell Arabia, which helps train the National Guard.

 

This latest purchase comes at a time when Saudi Arabia is facing two great challenges—the threat of internal dissent as an aftershock of the Arab Spring and an imminent war with Iran over regional hegemony.

 

Saudi Arabia is also behind the biggest arms deal of the last 20 years worth $60 billion for 84 upgraded F-15s, 72 UH-60 Blackhawks, 70 AH-64D Apache gunships, and 36 AH-6i scout helicopters plus assorted vehicles.

 

 

21st Century Asian Arms Race

Modifié le 29 mars 2014 par Gravity

[mgtstrategy]

Bien lu les articles ci dessus.

 

par contre, je vois pas le lien avec la coordination des armées du GCC....?

[prof.566]

Bien lu les articles ci dessus.

 

par contre, je vois pas le lien avec la coordination des armées du GCC....?

Le patron du GCC est très anglophile, rien de nouveau. Il essaye de faire une "de Crem" en expliquant qu'un réelle interopérabilité nécessiterait un matériel commun.... Ca ne te rappelle rien?

Cela dit, vu l'état des relations Qatar / AS j'ai des doutes...

[Gravity]

Bien lu les articles ci dessus.

 

par contre, je vois pas le lien avec la coordination des armées du GCC....?

 

 

GCC Announces a Joint Military Command

 

Dec. 11, 2013 - 07:09PM

By AWAD MUSTAFA 

 

DUBAI — Leaders of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) on Wednesday announced the formation of a unified military command for the GCC countries.

 

The unified command set-up has been mandated to the GCC Joint Military Committee, according to a statement released by the council's secretariat at the end of the 34th Summit in Kuwait City, Kuwait.

 

The council also announced the establishment of the Gulf Academy for Strategic and Security Studies in the United Arab Emirates.

 

The academy will aim to bolster military cooperation through a unified education based institution, according to Matthew Hedges, analyst for the Institute of Near East and Gulf Military Analysis.

 

"The academy will look to increase knowledge transfer and greater comprehend a unified realization of threats across the entire GCC region," he said. "There will be an initial focus on missile defense, border security and counter terrorism.”

 

In the December 2000, the member states agreed to a joint defense agreement based on the principle that any aggression against a member state would be considered as aggression against all the GCC states.

 

The agreement obliged all the six states to provide military assistance to help each other. It further established a Joint Military Committee to supervise cooperation and promote collaboration in joint military exercises and coordination in the field of military industries.

"The declaration highlights the increasing construction of a regional security architecture which was started with the peninsula shield force and is an issue that is seen by outside observers to need more attention," Hedges added.

 

In 2006, Saudi Arabia circulated a proposal during the GCC summit meeting in Riyadh that called for the adoption of “centralized command and decentralized forces,” and to disband the Peninsula Shield force as a collective single military unit in the region.

 

The announcement came following years of indecision and non-movement. The kingdom proposed that each GCC state should designate certain military units to be part of the new structure and to station those units within each state’s national territory. The units would then be linked to a unified central command, according to a report published by Dr. Christian Koch of Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung, a German think tank.

 

However, what emerged was the 2009 agreement to create a joint force for quick intervention to address security threats, as was demonstrated in the UAE-Saudi intervention in Bahrain in 2011.

 

Last week, US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel emphasized the need for greater cooperation between the GCC and the US, which will in turn sell weapons to the GCC nations as a single block. He added that the US wanted to expand missile defense cooperation in the region to combat threats.

 

The GCC statement also condemned Iran's continuation of the occupation of the Greater and Lesser Tunbs and Abu Musa island.

 

"The GCC continues to support of the right of sovereignty of the UAE over the three islands and considers any actions or practices carried out by Iran on the the islands null and void, as they do not change the historical facts and the legal rights and sovereignty of the UAE over the islands," said GCC Secretary General Abdel Latif Al Zayani.

 

Defense News

 

100,000 combat troops to beef up GCC military force

 

RIYADH: GHAZANFAR ALI KHAN | ARAB NEWS STAFF

Published — Sunday 22 December 2013

 

A strong deterrent force under a unified military command of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) will be made up of 100,000 personnel including combat soldiers, National Guard Minister Prince Miteb bin Abdullah has announced.

 

Prince Miteb made the remarks during a meeting with the top brass following military exercises conducted by the National Guard in different parts of the Kingdom.

 

He said the GCC unified military command would be set up soon with the mission to deter and respond to any possible act of aggression against any member state of the GCC.

 

The National Guard is ready to extend all help to this process, said Prince Miteb.

 

The GCC has already decided to locate the headquarters of the new military command in Riyadh.

 

Abdullatif Al-Zayani, GCC secretary-general, said recently that Saudi Arabia, which hosts the 40,000-member Peninsula Shield, was deemed the most feasible location for the command.

 

The GCC member states set up the Peninsula Shield force in 1982.

 

Addressing a meeting of the GCC Joint Defense Council in Bahrain recently, Al-Zayani said the joint military command would bolster the GCC’s defense capabilities amid threats from neighboring countries.

 

Sharif Al-Rubian, a political analyst, said the GCC move is significant in view of regional tension and the changing positions of Western nations on key issues confronting the Middle East, especially the Gulf states

 

“Moreover, the affluent Gulf region holds 60 percent of the world’s conventional proven oil reserves and roughly 40 percent of gas reserves… for which security is of paramount importance,” said Al-Rubian.

 

The Peninsula Shield has its base at King Khalid Military City near Hafr Al-Batin in the Eastern Province.

 

The National Guard is one of the three branches of the armed forces of Saudi Arabia.

 

The National Guard, under the control and leadership of Prince Miteb, serves both as a defense force against external attack and as a security force deterring internal threats.

 

Its duties also include guarding strategic facilities and providing safety and security in Makkah and Madinah.

 

 

L'académie de formation commune citée dans l'article 1 (GCC Announces a Joint Military Command).

 

 

New defence college to train UAE's future leaders

 

Ola Salem

December 31, 2012

 

ABU DHABI // A new National Defence College under the general command of the Armed Forces will open in the capital next August to train the next generation of Emirati leaders.

 

Its aim will be to prepare military and civil leadership to assess the challenges of national, regional and international security. It will also train future heads of state security, police and other forces, diplomatic and consular leaders and senior public officials who might in the future be involved in crisis management roles.

 

Maj Gen Eissa Saif Al Mazrouei, deputy chief of staff of the Armed Forces, said graduates would be expected to attain high rank and assume leadership positions

 

The college's supreme council will be chaired by Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Deputy Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces and Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi.

 

It will include the ministers of interior, foreign affairs, higher education and research, and cabinet affairs, among others, Wam, the state news agency, reported yesterday.

 

The council will convene initially to put together a strategy for the college, including its courses and curricula.

 

The council will also set prerequisites for enrolment, consider studies conducted at the college, prepare graduation certificates and decide on its budget.

 

As well as Emiratis, the college will take students from "sisterly and friendly countries", Wam said.

 

Enrolment will be determined by the needs of the Armed Forces and civil sectors.

 

As well as undergraduate degrees, the college will offer master's degrees and doctorates in strategic and security studies, and a diploma in state resource management.

 

Senior officers from the Armed Forces and senior officials of the ministries of interior and foreign affairs applauded the announcement of the new college and said it served the higher interests of the state.

 

Lt Gen Obaid Mohammed Al Ka'abi, undersecretary of the Defence Ministry said the national project "will be launched on solid national and scientific foundations to eventually serve the national security and strategy and fulfill the aspirations of our top leadership".

 

The National.ae

 

 

UAE to create 'Sandhurst' type military college

 

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UAE Cabinet introduces mandatory military service for all Emirati males

 

UAE: Tough penalties for evading conscription

 

Le même processus est en train d’être mis en place au Qatar (Encore cool pour l’instant. Mais il ne saurait demeurer ainsi dans les prochaines années) ainsi qu'au Koweït.

 

Qatar approves compulsory military service for men: reports

 

Mandatory military service sign-up for Qatari men to begin on Sunday

Modifié le 29 mars 2014 par Gravity

[mgtstrategy]

mouais, on va voir dans le procurement si ca se  mets vraiment en place...

[mgtstrategy]

Pourquoi les saoudiens viennent nous casses les burnes pr la vente du rafale au qatar????

 

Qatar: Emir Tamim, Major-General Atiyyah and Rafale matter (40 credits) Posted on: Fri, Mar 28, 2014

Qatari Minister of State for Defence Affairs Major-General Hamad Bin Ali Al-Atiyyah is said to have met with Emir of Qatar Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani following his visit to Paris on 19/3/14. The following 411-word report sheds light on the meeting and tells what about the Rafale matter in the light of allegations about Saudi efforts to block a possible deal between Qatar and France for this aircraft.