CV90 : pourquoi tant d'amour ?

[Serge]

Chose promise, chose due, l'armée norvégienne reçoit ses premiers CV-90 modernisés pour évaluation:

Norway receives first upgraded CV90 IFV

Christopher F Foss, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

25 February 2014

BAE Systems Hagglunds has delivered the first pre-series CV9030 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) to the Royal Norwegian Army. Source: BAE Systems

BAE Systems Hagglunds handed over the first of two pre-series upgraded CV9030 infantry fighting vehicles (IFV) to the Royal Norwegian Army on 25 February.

In total the company will provide the Royal Norwegian Army with 144 new and upgraded CV9030 series vehicles under a contract worth approximately GBP500 million (USD750 million).

The two pre-series vehicles will be put through extensive trials, before the main CV9030 production run begins in January 2015. Production for Norway will take place at BAE Systems Hagglunds' new CV90 production line in Sweden and should be completed in 2017, with a significant amount of final integration work taking place in Norway. Deliveries should be completed in 2018.

Shortly before the official handover Tommy Gustafsson-Rask, president of BAE Systems Hagglunds told IHS Jane's that "the Norwegian CV90 programme is on time and on budget and gives us a solid production base for several years".

Norway was the first CV90 export customer and by 2010 had taken delivery of 104 CV9030N vehicles; 103 remain in service.

The latest Norwegian CV9030s are a mix of new build and upgraded vehicles and include improvements as a result of combat experience with the vehicle deployed in Afghanistan by Denmark, Norway and Sweden (CV9040).

The vehicles feature a high level of protection against a wide range of threats including mines and improvised explosive devices and a modular ballistic protection system. It also features a digital electronic architecture and cameras for 360 degree situational awareness and four crew stations. Production vehicles will be fitted with Soucy rubber band tracks as standard, although the first pre-series vehicle is not.

Norway is taking delivery of 74 IFV variants (known as SPVs in Norwegian service), 21 reconnaissance vehicles with a mast-mounted surveillance package (OPVs), 15 command post vehicles (STRILDs), 16 engineer vehicles (STINGs), 16 multirole vehicles (MULTICs) and two driver training vehicles with a special cab.

The MRV can be rapidly reconfigured for different roles including logistic support and mortar platform.

The IFV, command and reconnaissance vehicles are being fitted with an upgraded Mk I two person turret armed with an ATK Armament Systems 30 mm cannon and a 7.62 mm co-axial machine gun (MG).

The IFV, reconnaissance and command models feature a new Mk III hull with the other versions based on re-worked Mk I hulls.

All of the 30 mm turret versions will have a Norwegian Kongsberg remote weapon station (RWS) on the roof armed with a 0.50 cal M2 HB MG.This can also be used as a sighting system in the hunter killer mode and can also be operated from the rear troop compartment. This RWS is also fitted to the MRV variant.

The new CV90 production line has a current capacity of 35 units a year, but this can be increased.

The company expects a contract to regenerate older Swedish Army CV9040 IFVs in the second half of this year and has bids in for new production vehicles for Denmark, which evaluated five tracked and wheeled vehicles last year. There are at least two other current potential CV90 export customers.

http://www.janes.com/article/34635/norway-receives-first-upgraded-cv90-ifv

[Serge]

[Serge]

Bestiller flere varianter

Da Norge bestilte CV90 i 1994, var det ikke penger nok til flere ulike varianter. Det ønsket går i oppfyllelse nå.

Familiens nye CV90 Mk III-vogner fordeler seg på følgende fem varianter.

STORMPANSERVOGNER (SPV 74 stk): Har en besetning på tre, en vognfører, en skytter og en vognkommandør, og har plass til åtte infanterister bak i kabinen. Disse skal inn i samme rolle som dagens stormpanservogner. Illustrasjon: BAE Systems

STRIDSLEDELSESVOGNER (Striled, 15 stk): Ser helt identiske ut utenfra, men der er kabinen innredet med tre arbeidsstasjoner for kompani- og bataljonsledelsen som følger avdelingene. Dette er de første som er designet fra bunn av og erstatter "hjemmesnekrede" striledvogner basert på M113. Illustrasjon: BAE SYSTEMS

OPPKLARINGSVOGNER (OPV, 21 stk): Har også lik signatur, men har i tillegg en mast som har et sensorhode på toppen. Dette er en kapasitet som norske panserstyrker ikke har i dag. Disse skal også operere sammen med ytterligere en sensorkapasitet fra ubemannede fly (RPAS) som også er en del av Kampvognprosjektet. Det leveres i tillegg 14 ekstra Vingtaqs-master for mulig integrasjon med hjulkjøretøy. Illustrasjon: BAE Systems

STORMINGENIØRVOGNER (Sting, 16 stk): En tårnløs variant basert på MK I-chassis. De utstyres med plog eller minerulle foran og supplerer dagens M113A3 til å rydde miner. Illustrasjon: BAE Systems

MULTIVOGN: Er også tårnløs og vil komme i flere konfigurasjoner. I utgangspunktet blir den levert i bombekasterversjon med 81 mm bombekaster integrert, men kan også utstyres for blant annet vip-transport og sanitet. Illustrasjon: BAE Systems

Modifié le 3 septembre 2014 par Serge

[Serge]

Une petite photo :

[BPCs]

Voici les 5 versions et leur nom exacte:

À noter que la version multirole peut être équipée en porte-mortier de 81, transport de personnel ou évacuation sanitaire. Intéressant.

Ceci ?

[Serge]

C'est en effet lui :

MULTIVOGN: Er også tårnløs og vil komme i flere konfigurasjoner. I utgangspunktet blir den levert i bombekasterversjon med 81 mm bombekaster integrert, men kan også utstyres for blant annet vip-transport og sanitet. Illustrasjon: BAE Systems

Mais mon favori, reste celui-là :

STORMINGENIØRVOGNER (Sting, 16 stk): En tårnløs variant basert på MK I-chassis. De utstyres med plog eller minerulle foran og supplerer dagens M113A3 til å rydde miner. Illustrasjon: BAE Systems

[Kiwi de fer]

La tourelle téléop est sur un bras pour gagné en visibilité porté couvert ?

[French Kiss]

La tourelle téléop est sur un bras pour gagné en visibilité porté couvert ?

Ca n'en a pas l'air, en tout cas ca fait un sacre perchoir, pas mal pour observer en profitant du relief pour rester discret mais ca doit accrocher tout ce qui traine en hauteur...

[Sovngard]

On dirait bien qu'ils ont gardé le Chaingun de 30 mm.

[Serge]

Oui.

Ils ont fait la chose suivante :

- Ils ont commandé des châssis MkIII neufs pour les fonctions combat, commandement et Reco.

- Ils ont monté les tourelles qu'ils ont sur ces châssis.

- Les châssis Mk-II restants sont, pour partie, transformés en version génie et multi-mission.

En conclusion, c'est la même armement car ils sont très satisfaits de la tourelle.

Modifié le 3 septembre 2014 par Serge

[Tonton Flingueur]

Qu'es qu'il y a comme différence entre le châssis MK II et MK III d'ailleurs ? 

[Serge]

Plus de blindage (mines surtout et le toit.), plus de hauteur au compartiment arrière, plus gros moteur...

[Serge]

Voici la réponse à la question que pose le titre de ce fil :

Introducing the new CV90 STING

We recently delivered the first CV90 STING vehicle to the Norwegians at the company’s Örnsköldsvik facility in Sweden.

The delivery of the STING, an engineering variant of the CV90 vehicles, is the latest milestone for the program.

“We have been working extremely closely with BAE Systems Hägglunds over the course of 26 months with this comprehensive contract,” said Colonel Ragnar Wennevik, Programme Manager Norwegian Defence Logistics Organization Land Systems. “Over the past six months, BAE Systems has delivered two of the five planned variants of the Norwegian CV90 fleet in a timely manner.”

We were awarded the contract in June 2012 to upgrade and deliver a total of 144 CV90 vehicles to the Norwegian Army. The first CV90 IFV, an infantry fighting variant, was delivered in February of this year.

Under the CV90 contract to Norway, we will deliver five vehicle variants, including 74 infantry fighting, 21 reconnaissance, 15 command, 16 engineering, 16 multi-role and two driver training vehicles. The multi-role vehicles are designed to undertake different functions, including mortar carrier and logistics roles.

Norwegian Industry is playing a major role. One partner is Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace, which leads a team of Thales and Vinghøg. Another partner is Ritek AS from Levanger responsible for production of the engineering vehicle.

Source : BAE Systems PLC (LSE: BAES.L)

Il serait intéressant de voir si l'interface de montage de socques et lames est à demeur ou démontable. Dans ce dernier cas, d'autres véhicules pourraient en monter.

Sinon, on peut noter les chenilles souples. L'armée norvégienne fut la première à en faire usage pour la classe des 30t.

Rappelons juste que le StIng est construit avec un CV-9030NO (standard MKII donc) détourellé et réaménagé. Même chose pour le modèle multifonctions qui arrive. La tourelle va, elle, sur des châssis au standard MkIII flambant neuf.

Modifié le 12 septembre 2014 par Serge

[Serge]

Quelques détails :

Le surface clearance device.

Les rouleaux sont des self protection combat roller de chez Pearson Engineering.

Détail du bras avec sa pince et sa griffe de scarification pour les levées de doute anti-IED.

Attention, le STING n'est pas dédié à l'ouverture d'itinéraire en particulier. La lutte contre les IED est une mission parmi tant d'autres. Sinon, la Norvège teste le PEROCC.

Pour comprendre à quoi servent les rouleaux, socques et autres lames, lire ceci : http://www.air-defense.net/forum/topic/11732-blind%C3%A9-g%C3%A9nie-module-dappui-au-contact/page-2#entry464557

Modifié le 12 septembre 2014 par Serge

[Philippe Top-Force]

A peine récent, les néerlandais s'en séparent d'une cinquantaine.

 

 

Estonia to buy Dutch CV90s http://t.co/LkhU6Fi753 pic.twitter.com/FEmHgcihOU

— IHS4Defense Security (@IHS4DefRiskSec)

October 3, 2014

[Sovngard]

A peine récent, les néerlandais s'en séparent d'une cinquantaine.

 

En même temps, je trouve que les néerlandais ont toujours eu les yeux plus gros que le ventre. Quand je vois la flotte de Léopard 2 qu'ils avaient. Pas étonnant qu'ils y ait des coupures de budget actuellement.

[Serge]

Premières livraisons :

BAE SYSTEMS DELIVERS FIRST OF 144 CV90S TO NORWAY

BAE Systems has handed over the first CV90 Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) in serial production to the Norwegian Defence Logistics Organisation (FLO) on time and on budget.

A roll-out ceremony was held yesterday in Moelv, Norway, at the facilities of BAE Systems Hägglunds’ business partner CHSnor AS. More than 200 guests attended, representing FLO and the Norwegian Armed Forces, as well as BAE Systems Hägglunds and its Norwegian industrial partners.

BAE Systems Hägglunds’ contract, signed in 2012, includes the upgrade of the Norwegian Army’s existing fleet of 103 CV9030s and 41 new-build vehicles, giving the Army a total of 144 state-of-the-art CV90s in varying configurations. They will all include enhanced capabilities for future battlefield and conflict scenarios, such as in the areas of protection, survivability, situational awareness, intelligence, and interoperability.

“I’m really pleased that we are able to reach this key milestone,” said Colonel Ragnar Wennevik, Norwegian Army CV90 project leader. “BAE Systems Hägglunds is an impressive supplier, and with the new CV90, we are buying the world’s most advanced armored combat vehicle family. Already proven in combat, we are now taking it to the next generation with state-of-the-art survivability, lethality, digitalization, and mobility.”

This program is a key element of the modernization of the Norwegian Army, providing them with the next-generation CV90, one of the world’s most advanced IFV and a low-risk proven solution. The Norwegian Army will incorporate five different configurations of the CV90 from 2015 onwards: 74 infantry fighting, 21 reconnaissance, 15 command, 16 engineering, and 16 multi-role and tow driver training vehicles. The multi-role vehicles can fulfill different functions, including mortar carrier and logistics roles.

In 2014, BAE Systems rolled out three variants of the Norwegian vehicles in Sweden, which were subsequently handed over to Norwegian industry for completion, as part of in-country partnerships.

Both the Norwegian customer and BAE Systems Hägglunds have been extremely focused on meeting every milestone in the contract from the outset. This focus has ensured that the two parties have developed a strong relationship based on mutual respect and openness, which has ensured project success.

BAE Systems Hägglunds is working closely with Norwegian industry in a comprehensive industrial cooperation contract, which is part of the main vehicle contract. Companies such as Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace, Nammo Raufoss AS, CHSnor AS, Moelv, and Ritek AS Levanger are key parties to the contract. The turret upgrade work, for example, takes place at CHSnor AS, and yesterday’s handover was the first in a series of vehicle deliveries from CHSnor AS and Ritek through 2018.

“The Norwegian industrial cooperation is extensive and important to us, especially when industrial cooperation is one of the major factors for international success,” said Tommy Gustafsson-Rask, managing director for BAE Systems Hägglunds. “We want to thank all industry partners for their commitment and dedication, and also our professional and supportive customer.”

http://www.baesystems.com/article/BAES_179551/bae-systems-delivers-first-of-144-cv90s-to-norway?_afrLoop=1143299703851000&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=qokuqn78v_1#!%40%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dqokuqn78v_1%26_afrLoop%3D1143299703851000%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3Dqokuqn78v_121

[TimTR]

Serge, que penses-tu du TOP 12.7 tel qu'on le voit sur la photo au-dessus ? Je vois quelques avantages (tirer en site négatif, observer/tirer avec juste le TOP qui dépasse), mais bonjour la silhouette.

[Asgard]

Alala... qu'est ce qu'il serait bien à la place du jag ... :(

[OCB]

Certes, mais où l'aurait-on employé ces 20 dernières années ?

[Asgard]

Pourquoi ces 20 dernières années ?

J'parle du CV90 à la place du jaguar, donc à partir d'aujourd'hui et en remplacement des ERC90/AMX. En tandem/complement du vbci (chenilles/roues).

 

sinon, on aurait pu l'utiliser au mali, en afgha, ...

[Conan le Barbare]

C'est l'idée d'un "Véhicule de Combat Omnirôle", une plateforme chenillée qui servent de base pour les VCI, APC, Canon d'assaut, Chasseur de Chars, la version T-40 ferait aussi de l'AA... Etc...

[Sovngard]

C'est ce que les russes sont en train de développer, le Kurganets-25.

[OCB]

@ Asgard, pourquoi ces 20 dernières années ? Tout simplement car quand on commande un nouveau matériel, on essaye d'anticiper les guerres du futur certes, mais on se refère surtout aux guerres du passé, les fameux RETEX servent surtout à ça.

 

Concernant le Mali ou la Centrafrique, vu les distances à parcourir, je pense qu'on peut oublier les chenilles. Quand à l'Afghanistan, d"après les dire de Serge ou de Gibbs sur un autre topic, la région où évoluaient les français était plutôt favorable à roue et guère à la chenille. Maintenant, je le concède, les français auraient pu se voir confier un autre théâtre d'opération où la chenille aurait été plus à son avantage.

 

Perso, je trouve que le Jaguar, pour ce nous en savons actuellement est adapté aux interventions passées et actuelles de la France. Quand au futur ? Il est possible que la situation aux frontières orientales de l'Europe change la donne. Il sera intéressant de voir si la fusion entre KMW et Nexter (si elle se fait) permet de proposer le genre de matériel.

[Conan le Barbare]

On en a déjà débattu ici du roues vs chenilles et plusieurs avantages décisifs avaient été mit en avant en faveur de la chenille.

1: le poid inférieur par rapport au trains renforcés des véhicules à roues, or l'on voudrait un véhicule facilement aérotransportable.

2: la mobilité très supérieur de la chenille en terrains sableux, boueux, neigeux, etc... ce qui permet in fine de s'engager dans un plus grand éventail de manœuvres terrestres, rendant nos mouvements de troupes moins prédictibles.

Etc...