[Canada] Programme Tactical Armored Patrol Vehicle

[Serge]

Voici un petit article de Defense-Update sur deux nouveaux candidats dans le programme TAPV canadien.

L'Aravis de Nexter est dans la danse.

Thales, Textron Selected to Compete for Canadian Next Armored Patrol Vehicle Program

The Australian Bushmaster armor and mine protected vehicle. Photo: Thales

Two companies the Australian subsidiary of Thales and U.S. based Textron Marine & Land Systems have confirmed as qualified for the next stage in the Canadian selection process for future acquisition of about 600 Tactical Armored Patrol Vehicle (TAPV), to replace the current RG-31, LAV-2 (Coyote) and some of the light protected G-Wagon utility vehicles.

Mobile Survivable Vehicle from Textrone Marine & Land Systems. Photo: Tamir eshel

Textron plans to offer the ‘Mobile Survivable Vehicle‘ – a special 4×4 wheeled armored vehicle specifically designed to provide survivability, mobility and versatility in full spectrum operations over the toughest of landscapes. A typical configuration was displayed last year at the AUSA annual meeting. The armored hull is shielding troops from roadside bombs and blasts while providing large power reserves for future electronics enhancements with an ergonomically designed interior for optimum comfort and payload.

“Our team has been working diligently to develop and test this modern combat vehicle for the Canadian military to achieve the highest possible level of crew protection while maintaining the mobility and reliability of our combat-proven Armored Security Vehicle,” said Textron Marine & Land Systems General Manager Tom Walmsley. “We are offering the Canadian military the ultimate balance of survivability, mobility and lethality in a modern, ergonomically designed platform. It is a cost effective game-changing solution for Canada’s national security requirements for the next 25 years.”

The combat proven Bushmaster family of protected mobility vehicles includes patrol, command, ambulance, surveillance and target acquisition, direct fire support weapons and mortar vehicle variants and provides solutions for a wide variety of mission roles and applications including logistical support. Bushmasters have been deployed to Afghanistan for the past several years, where they are operated by the Australian and Dutch forces. For the TAPV program Thales intend to offer the base vehicle with various weapon systems, such as a remote weapons station, sighting and vision systems and several C4I options.

Anticipating the significance of local workshare in the program, Thales has entered an exclusive teaming agreement with DEW Engineering and Development ULC, on the assembly of the Bushmaster. In addition, Thales will be looking at further maximizing its Canadian Content Value and will be meeting with potential suppliers across Canada over the next several months. Thales’ first official supplier sourcing session will be during DEFSEC Atlantic 2010, in Halifax, September 9 – 10, 2010.

Other teams that competed for the program included Oshkosh offering the M-ATV, and the French Nexter offered the Aravis. Although the Canadians were explicitly seeking ‘Military off the Shelf’ (MOTS) vehicles, two companies preferred to submit new vehicles – BAE Systems offered the South African designed RG-35 and L-3, teamed with Israel’s Hatehof and Elbit Systems offered the new Xtrem.

[Serge]

Bae a dévoilé sa proposition:

BAE Systems Unveils an RG-35 Optimized for Canada’s TAPV Requirements

Published on May 10th, 2011

Written by: Tamir Eshel

With a gross vehicle mass of 21,000kg and a payload capacity of 3,000kg, the RPU seats a driver plus 9 crew members offering MRAP protection level.

Photo: BAE Systems.

BAE Systems is submitting a revised version of its RG-35 for the Canadian Tactical Armored Patrol Vehicle (TAP-V). The company has released some details about the new 4×4 design – known as RG-35 RPU, designed as a mine protected reconnaissance, patrol and utility vehicle. The TAP-V is positioned as a replacement for the RG31 and Coyote reconnaissance vehicles operated by the Canadian forces. An award for up to 600 TAP-V vehicles is expected by early next year. The Canadian Defense Department has issued the Request for proposal in March and the deadline for industry proposals is July 14, 2011.

The RG-35 RPU's protection module is centered around a proven "crew citadel" protection approach against mine, IED's and gunfire

Designed to offer very high survivability for the crew, the protection module is centered around a proven “crew citadel” protection approach against mine, IED’s and gunfire, through a compact design optimized for reconnaissance roles. Based on the RG35’s open architecture design, the RPU is built for multiple missions. The vehicle can be modified to transport cargo, conduct routine patrols or be outfitted with cameras and other electronic for surveillance missions. With a gross vehicle mass of 21,000kg and a payload capacity of 3,000kg, the RPU seats a driver plus 9 crew members.

Force protection International has joined Canada’s aerospace and defense contractor CAE in a bid for the TAP-V. Force Protection, selected earlier by Canada as a qualified bidder, is offering the Canadian military variants of Cougar wheeled combat vehicles to meet TAPV requirements. As its main Canadian partner, CAE would have overall responsibility for the in-service support solution, including vehicle operator and mission training systems; engineering information environment; fleet management services; systems engineering support; and, lifecycle and integrated logistics support services. CAE would also be responsible for assembling a pan-Canadian team of companies to develop and support any country-specific requirements for Canada’s replacement fleet of tactical armored patrol vehicles.

The RPU is configured as a 4x4 vehicle, although the modular design of the RG-35 can be configured for a 6x6 as well. Photo: BAE Systems

Earlirt in 2011 Oshkosh Defense unveiled its prototype for Canada’s Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicle (TAPV) program, as well as the company’s plans to work with its subsidiary, London Machinery, Inc. (LMI), to leverage that company’s new facility in London, Ontario, in pursuit of Canadian Department of National Defence (DND) vehicle programs.

[g4lly]

C'est une impression ou il a l'air super compact, pour pas dire rikiki, ce vehicule?! C'est intéressant de voir que les vehicules a moteur central reviennent en scene, par contre j'adere pas au poste de conduite qui semble monoplace.

Le truc fait 5.20m x 2.60m x 2.45m ... c'est 85cm plus court, mais plus large et plus haut, qu'un vab.

J'ai édité la longueur avant de voir que Serge a répondu ;)

[Serge]

Effet d'optique lié au rapport l'argeur-longueur proche de 1 et sa position en découvert sans objet à proximité.

Quand tu voix qu'il porte 10 hommes pour 21t, il est plus gros qu'un VAB.

[Serge]

Je l'avais oublié, voici le candidat Oshkosh qui n'est autre qu'un MATV:

Oshkosh unveils its prototype for Canada’s TAPV program

Published on February 20th, 2011

Written by: Noam Eshel

Oshkosh TAPV Prototype.

Photo: Oshkosh Defense

Oshkosh Defense unveiled its prototype for Canada’s Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicle (TAPV) program, as well as the company’s plans to work with its subsidiary, London Machinery, Inc. (LMI), to leverage that company’s new facility in London, Ontario, in pursuit of Canadian Department of National Defence (DND) vehicle programs.

Oshkosh Defense and General Dynamics Land Systems-Canada teamed for the TAPV program, which will replace the 4×4 RG-31 mine protected Armoured Patrol Vehicle (APV) and the Light Armored Vehicle LAV-2 6×6 Coyote reconnaissance vehicle.

The two companies also are teamed up for the MSVS program, which will replace the Medium Logistics Vehicles, Wheeled (MLVW) fleet. This new fleet will be used by the Regular Forces and the Canadian Army Reserves in a wide range of roles – from support during domestic emergencies, to deployed operations.

Oshkosh will serve as the prime contractor for both programs. The company plans to leverage proven vehicle platforms and advanced technologies for proposal submissions, including the MRAP All-Terrain Vehicle (M-ATV) and the Medium Tactical Vehicle Replacement (MTVR).

Oshkosh MRAP All terrain Vehicle (M-ATV) proposed for Canada's TAPV Program.

Photo: Oshkosh Defense

En observant les compétiteurs, les propositions sont tellement différentes pour remplacer un ensemble de véhicules dont les fonctions sont là aussi tellement différentes que je me demande si les canadiens savent ce qu'ils veulent. Hormis de la protection anti-IED et faire des économies.

[g4lly]

Le "MATV variante Canada" a quelle capacité en passager? seulement 5 comme l'US ou il installé des siege a a la place du plateau?

[Serge]

Il me semble que c'est la version cabine 5 places.

Je trouve étrange l'absence allemande. Où sont les Dingo et autre Grizlly?

[alexandreVBCI]

Vidéo du RG-35 : http://defensetech.org/2011/05/10/dt-video-bae-systems-rg35-armored-vehicle/

[Serge]

Petit point de Defense-Update sur la proposition de Force Protection:

Force Protection Expands Industry Team Targeting Canada’s TAPV Program

Published on May 24th, 2011

Written by: Tamir Eshel

The Cougar is currently operated by the U.S. marine Corps, as well as the British Army. Both servcies are using several variants of the 4x4 and 6x6 vehicles.

Photo: MOD

Force Protection Industries is strengthening the international industry team it is leading in bidding for the Canadian TAPV program. The company announced today the addition of Lockheed Martin Canada as the provider of integrated C4ISR systems for the program, and Elbit Systems, to provide the Dual Remote Weapon Station (DRWS). CAE was announced recently as Force Protection’s main Canadian partner with responsibility for providing the in-service support solution.  Force Protection is offering the Canadian military variants of the Cougar wheeled armored vehicles to meet TAPV requirements. The Canadian Department of National Defence (DND) expects to award a contract to the final selected bidder by early 2012.

Force Protection Industries is one of several competitors shortlisted to compete for the supply of up to 600 wheeled combat vehicles expected to replace patrol and recce vehicles currently serving the Canadian land forces. Both Elbit Systems and Lockheed Martin Canada will rely on local manufacturing, further contributing to the team’s economic proposition. The DRWS, developed by Elbit Systems Land and C4I, will be produced in Nova Scotia Canada, creating high-tech, high-value jobs in that region. Elbit has already competed in the previous round of the TAPV program, as a member of an international team led by L3.

Elbit Systems' Dual Remote Weapon Station (DRWS).

Photo: Elbit Systems.

[g4lly]

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[g4lly]

Apres Thales c'est Nexter qui abandonne le concours

http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/07/29/nexter-drops-out-of-tapv-race/

[Serge]

Bien étrange ce programme.

Comment remplacer par un unique véhicule le RG-31 et les Coyote?

[Bruno]

Apres Thales c'est Nexter qui abandonne le concours

http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/07/29/nexter-drops-out-of-tapv-race/

J'ai le pressentiment que pour ce programme les canadiens vont choisir l'offre de General-Dynamics qui propose une nouvelle version de son véhicule phare, désignée "Piranha 5". Ce véhicule serait doté d'une tourelle de RheinMetall avec canon de 30mm :

http://www.infodefensa.com/?noticia=general-dynamics-propone-el-piranha-5-para-el-programa-del-vehiculo-de-combate-de-canada (article en espagnol)

Il ne faut pas oublier que cette firme est très présente et investit beaucoup au Canada

[Rescator]

personne, pas même les canadiens que j'ai interrogés, n'a été capable de m'expliquer pourquoi les canadiens avaient besoin d'un nouveau 8x8 armé d'un canon de moyen calibre alors qu'ils sont en train de dépenser un milliard de dollars pour moderniser leur Kodiak armés d'un 25mm. 

la seule capacité opérationnelle qu'il manque aux canadiens est un vrai VCI d'accompagnement des léo2 A4CAN, donc un chenillé (pas forcément armé d'un gros moyen calibre, conserver le 25 mm ne serait pas idiot d'un point de vue logistique munitions et le 120 du léo d'à côté pulvérise n'importe quoi), donc un CV90.

le piranha 5 n'est qu'un proto et on ne voit pas les canadiens acheter un véhicule dont la qualif et l'industrialisation doivent être menées complètement. sauf considération politique qui m'echapperait.

en lançant une fausse compétition imposée par leur procurement (rappel: l'armée canadienne avait choisi le CV90 comme presque tous les autres pays otan qui ont du léo2), les canuks se sont embarqués dans un appel d'offre d'une rare compléxité. ça va être amusant de voir comment ils se sortent de cette procédure.

[Mat]

un vrai VCI d'accompagnement [...], donc un chenillé

une petite pique envers notre VBCI national ?  =D

[Gibbs le Cajun]

une petite pique envers notre VBCI national ?  =D

disons qu'ils auront moins d'unité à équipé en VCI ,donc un chenillé sa peu rentré dans le créneau budget des Canadiens .

faudrait voir aussi se que sa représenterais en nombre le parc de nouveau chenillé .

à mon avis ,beaucoup moins nombreux que le notre  ;) .

se qui laisse une marge aux Canadiens de choisir du chenillé .

[looping]

Il me semble qu'à part quelques M113 le Canada a toujours eu des véhicules à roues....question de culture ?

[Serge]

Avant l'arrivée des Coyote, les canadiens avaient des Scorpion en reco. Peut-être ont-ils eu des Lynx également?

A l'arrivée des Coyote, des pilotes ont tiré la gueule à cause de la roue. Ils gangnaient un blindé moderne mais, en terme de mobilité, ils ont perdu et l'ont ressenti.

[Serge]

Juste une petite photo du candidat TAPV de Textron:

En fait, il est une évolution MSV, version améliorée du M-1117 Guardian surtout pour la résistance aux mines.

Un lien vers un article qui ne dit que du bien du candidat de Textron:

http://www.canadiandefencereview.com/UserFiles/File/Vol17_Iss6_Textron.pdf

Une vidéo qui a du souffle:

Du côté de chez Force Protection, voici le Timberwolf, une extrapolation de leur Cougar 6x6:

Présentation sur Army Recognition:

http://www.armyrecognition.com/canada_canadian_wheeled_vehicles_and_armoured_uk/timberwolf_tapv_tactical_armoured_patrol_vehicle_data_sheet_specifications_description_pictures_uk.html

Vidéo du fabriquant:

[Philippe Top-Force]

Le véhicule vainqueur ressemble de face à un museau de phacochère  :lol:

http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2012/06/08/photos-the-canadian-forces-new-tactical-armoured-patrol-vehicle/

[Serge]

Première présentation officielle, c'est à l'AUSA-2012:

http://www.miltechmag.com/2012/10/ausa-2012-textron-marine-land-systems.html

[Serge]

Un lien vers une brochure:

http://www.textronmarineandland.com/assets/pdfs/datasheets/commando-family-of-vehicles.pdf

[Serge]

Textron Marine and Land Systems used AUSA Annual as the venue to unveil their Commando family of vehicles.

The Commando family is based on the company's Armored Security Vehicle (ASV), which is in service with the US Army.

Speaking to Shephard, Richard Valenti, VP business development and capture manager, said that ASV was originally a 'one trick pony' but the company had realised that it could develop the base vehicle to give 'MRAP levels of protection' while maintaining high levels of mobility.

Beyond the baseline Commando Advanced the company can now offer two further variants of the vehicle - the Commando Select which offers MRAP Level 1 blast protection and the Commando Elite which MRAP 2X blast protection. The former has already has been bought by the US to equip Iraqi forces while the latter is the basis for the Canadian Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicle programme.

Valenti said that the company is currently delivering three variants of the Commando Select to Iraq - a basic APC, a command and control variant and an ambulance. However, the country is now evaluating whether to add three further variants that would include a maintenance vehicle, an 81mm mortar system and a 90mm direct fire platform.

As well as the 600 Commando Select's being delivered to Iraq the company is also contracted to deliver 500 Commando Elite's to Canada for the TAPV programme with an option for a further 100 vehicles. As well as adding further levels of protection the Elite variant also includes a digital backbone that allows the 'plug and play' of a variety of sensors and other systems.

In the summer Textron participated with the Commando Elite in summer trials in the United Arab Emirates. The country is considering the vehicle as a reconnaissance platform for the Presidential Guard and Valenti said that there could be further requirements in the country.

Looking to the future the company wants to continue improving the Commando offering. Among the improvements that Textron is looking at are further lethality options. However, Valenti said that the company would remain focused on providing the right vehicles at the right cost.

http://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/ausa-2012-textron-reinvents-commando-range/

[Serge]

Petite vidéo présentant la gamme complète des Commando dont le TAPV.

[Serge]

Le programme avance:

 

 

 

Textron Systems Canada Inc., a Textron Inc. (NYSE: TXT) company, today announced that Textron Marine & Land Systems (TM&LS) has completed and shipped four pre-production Canadian Forces Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicles (TAPV) to locations in the United States and Canada for a series of testing and training activities.

The Textron TAPV Team, led by Textron Systems Canada, was selected in June 2012 to manufacture 500 Canadian Forces Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicles with options for up to 100 more. The TAPV contract, with options, has a value of $603.4 million CAD, with an additional five-year in-service support contract of $105.4 million CAD.

In early July, the first pre-production vehicle (PPV) was sent to Aberdeen Test Center, a U.S. Army test facility in Maryland, for qualification testing; a process scheduled to take five months. The second PPV arrived at Rheinmetall Canada in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Quebec in mid July. Rheinmetall completed Land Communication Information System training with this vehicle, which was followed by electro optical technical training performed by Kongsberg Protech Systems Canada and vehicle technician training by TM&LS.

The third and fourth TAPV PPVs also are at Rheinmetall Canada, where vehicle integration activities are taking place. Over the next several weeks, TM&LS is scheduled to finish work on two additional PPVs. At that point, five of the six PPVs will be sent to Canadian Forces Base Valcartier in Quebec for two weeks of Operator and Gunner Operator Training starting in late August. Immediately following, these pre-production TAPVs will begin Reliability, Availability, Maintainability and Durability (RAMD) testing at Valcartier. RAMD testing is expected to continue for eight months.

"Our pre-production vehicle assembly, testing and training is on schedule and moving us toward the start of full-rate production planned for January of 2014," said Neil Rutter, general manager of Textron Systems Canada. "We remain committed to working with our Department of National Defense customer and our partners here in Canada to build and support a fleet of TAPVs that provide Canadian soldiers with unmatched performance and protection for decades."

Ottawa-based Textron Systems Canada, as prime contractor, is providing overall TAPV program and configuration management, acting as design authority for change management, coordinating vehicle integration activities by Canadian subcontractors, and managing the In-Service Support contract. Textron Systems Canada also is implementing a pan-Canadian Industrial and Regional Benefits program designed to bring new expertise and opportunities to Canadian companies.

The Textron TAPV is the most reliable and technologically advanced vehicle of its kind. It draws on the company's more than 45 years of experience in the design and production of armoured vehicles. The Textron TAPV is designed to provide the Canadian Forces with the optimal balance of survivability, mobility and versatility, while delivering outstanding performance in the world's most challenging environments. Extensively tested to confirm ballistic, blast, mobility and reliability levels, the Textron TAPV has been engineered to meet and exceed Canada's requirements.

Source : Textron Inc. (NYSE: TXT)

Published on ASDNews: Aug 8, 2013

 

 

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