terrorisme Somalie, nouvelle terre du Jihad?

[Philippe Top-Force]

 

[collectionneur]

Encore un attentat contre un hôtel dans la nuit, une dizaine de tués :

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2019/03/01/97001-20190301FILWWW00088-attaque-de-shebab-en-somalie-au-moins-10-morts.php

[collectionneur]

Exécutions à la chaîne de civils par les Shebabs pour espionnage

https://amp.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20190707-somalie-shebabs-executent-leurs-rangs

Selon le Global Extremism Monitor, en 2017, les shebabs avaient exécuté 82 personnes accusées d’avoir soit violé la loi islamique, soit espionné. Un chiffre qui plaçait le groupe en 2e position derrière l’État islamique en Syrie et en Irak.

[Gibbs le Cajun]

Il y a 2 heures, collectionneur a dit :

Exécutions à la chaîne de civils par les Shebabs pour espionnage

https://amp.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20190707-somalie-shebabs-executent-leurs-rangs

Selon le Global Extremism Monitor, en 2017, les shebabs avaient exécuté 82 personnes accusées d’avoir soit violé la loi islamique, soit espionné. Un chiffre qui plaçait le groupe en 2e position derrière l’État islamique en Syrie et en Irak.

En général, quand sa commence à faire de la purge dans les rangs et les civils, ça ne sent pas bon pour un pays, organisation, etc.. ...

C'est que la trahison, les divisions interne, la méfiance qui s'installe, donc aussi la paranoïa, que les actions de désinformation, manipulation utilisé par les services de renseignement US, français ( enfin je suppose vu notre positionnement à Djibouti ). Ça et les frappes de drones, avions qui font mouche et envoi ad patres ces bâtards de shebab ... C'est que le renseignement est plus précis quand il vient de source humaine sur le terrain, plus qu'en ne gérant qu'avec le technologique, satellites etc... 

 

Modifié le 9 juillet 2019 par Gibbs le Cajun

[g4lly]

Citation

Somalie : le Qatar aurait commandité des attentats commis par Daech

Par F.K Publié le 23 juillet 2019 - 16:40:15

Le Qatar fait déjà l’objet de soupçons de soutien au terrorisme et de financements illicites. Le pays est confronté à une nouvelle affaire d’une extrême dangerosité. De fait, selon un article du New York Times, un certain Khalifa Kayed Al-Muhanadi, homme d’affaires puissant et proche de l’Émir du Qatar, aurait commandité les attentats de Daech perpétrés contre la Somalie. L’objectif était de faire fuir les investisseurs émiratis de Dubaï.

Ces révélations interviennent suite à celles qui ont été faites par le Wall Street Journal. Le New York Times, pour sa part, affirme avoir obtenu des enregistrements où l’homme d’affaires mentionné parlait avec l’ambassadeur du Qatar en Somalie. Ils discutaient, selon la même source, de la manière avec laquelle un attentat à Bosado avait été planifié afin de « développer les intérêts du Qatar en ciblant les investisseurs de Dubaï ».

« Nous savons tous qui sont derrières les bombardements et les meurtres », aurait affirmé l’homme d’affaires selon le New York Times, qui aurait clairement précisé que l’objectif était de faire fuir les investisseurs de Dubaï.

L’ambassadeur a été contacté par le New York Times. Il a tout d’abord nié tout lien avec l’homme d’affaires proche de l’émir du Qatar. Il a rapidement raccroché le téléphone au nez des journalistes. Pour sa part, le gouvernement du Qatar n’a pas remis en question l’authenticité des révélations, se contentant d’affirmer qu’il s’agissait uniquement d’une « conversation banale entre simples citoyens ».

https://www.realites.com.tn/2019/07/somalie-le-qatar-aurait-commandite-des-attentats-commis-par-daech/

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La source https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/world/africa/somalia-qatar-uae.html

Citation

With Guns, Cash and Terrorism, Gulf States Vie for Power in Somalia

The port in Bosaso, Somalia, is managed by an Emirati company. A recent attack there may have been carried out to advance the interests of Qatar and to drive out the Emiratis.CreditCreditFeisal Omar/Reuters

When a small car bomb exploded outside a courthouse in the bustling port city of Bosaso in northern Somalia, local news reports chalked it up to Islamist militants retaliating for American airstrikes. At least eight people were wounded, and a local affiliate of the Islamic State claimed responsibility.

The attack, however, may have also been part of a very different conflict: one among wealthy Persian Gulf monarchies competing for power and profits across the Horn of Africa.

Over the last two years, war-torn Somalia has emerged as a central battleground, with the United Arab Emirates and Qatar each providing weapons or military training to favored factions, exchanging allegations about bribing local officials, and competing for contracts to manage ports or exploit natural resources.

In an audio recording obtained by The New York Times of a cellphone call with the Qatari ambassador to Somalia, a businessman close to the emir of Qatar said that the militants had carried out the bombing in Bosaso to advance Qatar’s interests by driving out its rival, the United Arab Emirates.

“The bombings and killings, we know who are behind them,” the businessman, Khalifa Kayed al-Muhanadi, said in the call on May 18, about a week after the bombing.

The violence was “intended to make Dubai people run away from there,” he said, referring to the Emirates’ financial capital. “Let them kick out the Emiratis, so they don’t renew the contracts with them and I will bring the contract here to Doha,” the capital of Qatar.

If accurate, his claims are striking new evidence of the potential for the competition among Persian Gulf states to inflame strife across the Horn of Africa.

“Somalia is the most vivid example of the potential destabilization brought by the Gulf rivalry,” said Zach Vertin, a scholar at the Brookings Institution and a former American diplomat in the region. “The Gulf sees these states as clients. It is all about controlling the space: plant a flag in the ground and lock down territory and relationships before your rival can.”

The scramble for power in Somalia and the Horn of Africa is in some ways an extension of the cold war that has flared across the region since the beginning of the Arab Spring uprisings more than eight years ago. Qatar and Turkey backed the uprisings and the Islamist political parties that rose with them. The United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia opposed the uprisings and the Islamist parties, and accused Qatar of backing militants.

Two years ago, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other allied states cut off commercial and diplomatic ties with Qatar in an effort to pressure it to alter its policies.

Somalia is an impoverished country, but its long coastline offers access to the region’s fast-growing markets and influence over vital shipping lanes from the Persian Gulf. An Emirati company manages the port in Bosaso.

Asked about the cellphone conversation, neither Mr. al-Muhanadi nor the government of Qatar disputed the authenticity of the recording, but both said that he was speaking as a private citizen and was not a government official.

“The state of Qatar’s foreign policy has always been one of creating stability and prosperity — we do not meddle in the internal affairs of sovereign countries,” the Qatar communications office said in a statement to The Times. “Anybody doing so is not acting on behalf of our government.”

However in the recording of the phone call, which was made by a foreign intelligence agency opposed to Qatar’s foreign policies, the ambassador expressed no protest or displeasure at the idea that Qataris had played a role in the bombings.

“So that’s why they are having attacks there, to make them run away,” the ambassador, Hassan bin Hamza Hashem, replied.

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President Trump welcomed Qatar’s emir, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, to the White House this month.CreditPool photo by Kevin Dietsch

“Our friends were behind the last bombings,” Mr. al-Muhanadi, the businessman, assured the ambassador.

Mr. al-Muhanadi is known to be close to the emir, Qatar’s ruler, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani. There are photographs of the two of them together and, according to news reports and text messages provided by the intelligence agency, Mr. al-Muhanadi frequently travels with the emir.

In a brief telephone interview with The New York Times, the ambassador denied knowing Mr. al-Muhanadi and quickly hung up.

In a separate telephone interview, Mr. al-Muhanadi said that he was only a “school friend” of the ambassador’s. “I am a retired man and a trader,” he said. “I do not represent any government.”

Asked why he had described the Bosaso attackers as “friends,” Mr. al-Muhanadi said, “All Somalis are my friends.”

If the Bosaso bombing was intended to drive away the Emiratis, it was not the first attack there directed at them.

In February, two assailants disguised as fishermen shot and killed the manager for an Emirati company involved in running the port. The company, P&O Ports, said that three other employees were wounded.

The militant group Al Shabab claimed responsibility, saying that it had assassinated the manager because the Emirati company “occupies” the port of Bosaso. “We had warned him but he turned a deaf ear,” a Shabab spokesman said of the port manager, Reuters reported. “He was illegally in Somalia.”

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Somali troops at an Emirati training program in Mogadishu in 2017. The Emirates ended the program last year, shifting its support to two provinces opposed to the central government.CreditFeisal Omar/Reuters

In the cellphone recording, Mr. al-Muhanadi refers to the government’s contracts with DP World, the main Dubai company hired to manage ports in Bosaso and a city in Somaliland province. He says that a relative of the president “is with me” and will transfer the DP World contracts to Qatar.

The Shabab, an affiliate of Al Qaeda, and the Islamic State in Somalia, a smaller group, consider the Somali government their main enemy. The United Arab Emirates have carried out military operations against both groups, but it is unclear why those groups would side with Qatar, which has also supported the Somali government.

Qatar has denied supporting the Shabab or other militant groups. President Trump once accused Qatar of financing terrorist groups, but when Sheikh al-Thani visited the White House this month, Mr. Trump called him a friend and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin praised him for helping combat terrorist financing.

American officials say that the charges against Qatar are selective at best, noting that many Persian Gulf monarchies have struck tactical alliances with hard-line militants or struggled to clamp down on donations to extremists by wealthy individuals.

Many Gulf states are close military partners of the United States, and Qatar is the home of a major American air base.

Of the Gulf states, the United Arab Emirates have moved most aggressively to spread influence in the Horn of Africa. The Emiratis sent teams of mercenaries and commandos to Somalia as early as 2012 to combat piracy off the coast, and they extended military operations to fight the Shabab and other militant groups.

Over time, the Emiratis established a ring of more than half a dozen commercial ports or military bases around the Gulf of Aden and the Horn of Africa, including a major military base at Assab, Eritrea, that was used to launch operations into Yemen.

During a severe famine in 2011, Turkey, an ally of Qatar, donated significant humanitarian aid, and then followed with extensive commercial investment. Turkey opened a major military base and training program in Mogadishu, the Somali capital, in 2017.

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A food distribution center financed by a Qatari charity feeds displaced people in Mogadishu.CreditMohamed Abdiwahab/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

The Somali government initially sought to stay neutral in the regional cold war.

But in April 2018, the Somali authorities seized $9.6 million in cash from an Emirati jet at the Mogadishu airport. Emirati officials said the money was intended to pay the salaries of Somali soldiers and police officers under Emirati training. Somalia accused the Emiratis of planning to use the money to buy influence or otherwise destabilize the country.

Demanding an apology, the United Arab Emirates retaliated by cutting off cooperation with the Somali government, suspecting it of siding with Turkey and Qatar. The Emiratis shifted their support and operations to two northern provinces antagonistic to the central government — the breakaway province of Somaliland and the semiautonomous province of Puntland, which includes Bosaso.

The Emirati company DP World said in 2017 that it had agreed to invest $336 million under a 30-year contract to expand and run the port in Bosaso. The company pledged $440 million the previous year to develop a port in Somaliland.

Qatar moved quickly to capitalize on the Somali government’s rupture with the United Arab Emirates by fortifying its own ties. The month after the cash seizure, Qatari officials told Reuters that they were providing $385 million in infrastructure, education and humanitarian assistance to Somalia. In January, Qatar said it was also providing 68 armored vehicles to help the government fight the Shabab and other extremists.

The Shabab have fought against both sides in the inter-Arab cold war. The group has attacked Turkey for backing Somalia and its military. In May, the Shabab claimed responsibility for a car bomb that killed a Turkish construction engineer said to be working at the Turkish military training facility in Mogadishu.

In 2013, the Shabab attacked the Turkish Embassy, killing three people and wounding nine others.

If confirmed, the claim of the Qatari businessman, Mr. al-Muhanadi, would suggest that Qatar had at least tacitly condoned the attacks by extremists in Bosaso even as it helped the government fight extremists in Mogadishu. A former Defense Department official said he would not be surprised if Qatar was trying to play both sides to its own advantage.

Tricia Bacon, a Somalia specialist at American University in Washington and a former counterterrorism analyst for the State Department, suggested that Qatar did not need a deep relationship with the Shabab in order to hire local extremists for a more limited task, as “a proxy to conduct some attacks and disrupt the Emirates’ plans.”

The government of Qatar said it would investigate Mr. al-Muhanadi’s call to the ambassador. “He will be held responsible for his comments, which we reiterated do not represent our principles,” it said in a statement. “Somalia is an important partner for the state of Qatar, but we do not interfere in their internal affairs.”

In the telephone interview, Mr. al-Muhanadi blamed the Emiratis for the trouble in Somalia.

“Just talk to our friends from the simple people of Somalia,” he said. “They know that the Emiratis are responsible for destruction.”

Mona El-Naggar and Eric Schmitt contributed reporting.

 

[collectionneur]

Le dernier gros attentat suicide a Mogadiscio a tenté de visé un convoi turque, mais a causé la mort de tellement de civils que les shebab ont du s'excuser (et leurs formulations est risible, pour eux les turques ne sont pas musulmans) :

https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2019/12/30/en-somalie-un-nouveau-carnage-aux-portes-de-la-capitale-mogadiscio_6024391_3212.html

[Rob1]

Jack Murphy a un petit scoop sur un combat d'une troupe de cavalerie de la garde nationale en Somalie en septembre dernier, qui pourrait être la plus grosse "bataille" US dans ce pays depuis la chute du faucon noir : https://connectingvets.radio.com/articles/news/new-jersey-national-guard-soldiers-battle-al-shabab (accès depuis les USA uniquement)

Révélation

In September of 2019, members of the New Jersey National Guard engaged in a fierce firefight with al Shabab militants at Baledogle Airfield, in southern Somalia when they were hit with a succession of car bombs followed up by a ground assault.

The attack, which resulted in some twenty dead enemy combatants, received scant media coverage and a brief press release from AFRICOM at the time. The 150 soldiers on the ground that day were quietly awarded Combat Infantry Badges (CIB) and Combat Action Badges (CAB) for what may be the largest firefight between Somalian militants and American soldiers since Operation Gothic Serpent in 1993. 

Connecting Vets spoke to three soldiers directly involved in the incident.

C Troop, 1st Squadron of the 102nd Cavalry Regiment, based out of Hackettstown, New Jersey, has a fairly unique mission among National Guard units, specializing as dismounted reconnaissance troops.  At the time of the attack, the unit was on a 9-month deployment to southern Somalia, stationed at Baledogle military airfield (known as BMA).  Also at the base were members of a Special Operations Task Force that worked with Danab, their host nation commando force. Another element co-located at BMA was private security contractors from Bancroft, who are reputed to coordinate with drone pilots on the base, recruit Somalian commandos, and provide logistical support to the U.S. military forces stationed there.

The New Jersey National Guard soldiers said they felt there was always an imminent threat due to the base being so isolated and constant enemy activity. The soldiers worked long days, rotating from security details guarding the base's perimeter and going out on defensive reconnaissance patrols nearby. While the Special Operations soldiers were more or less confined to the base, the National Guard troops would conduct key leader engagements in the surrounding areas, help the locals with civil projects in conjunction with a NGO called Spirit of America, and patrol around BMA in order to familiarize themselves with the terrain, one New Jersey National Guard soldier described.  While the Special Operations soldiers and Bancroft contractors had their mission, the conventional force was primarily there for security and enabling the Somalian federal government to assert themselves in more meaningful ways with the local populace. 

A clan-based society, Somalia has long resisted any form of central government and has churned through various attempts to create transitional governments for several decades.

Several of the soldiers deployed to BMA told Connecting Vets there is a general unwillingness to conduct missions since four American soldiers were killed in a disastrous mission gone wrong in Niger in 2017, but due to the constant security threats to the base, they felt the need to be proactive. Knowing that it was a question of when rather than if, the National Guard soldiers carefully planned their defensive positions and security posture around BMA.

The attack finally came on September 30th, 2019 at 9:45 AM.

Two soldiers present for the attack detailed how it unfolded. An al Shabab militant charged the back end of the base driving a truck filled with explosives. As he drove towards the back gate, his vehicle fell into a tank trap pit that had been dug as a defensive measure. Snipers and machine gunners opened fire on the vehicle. It is unknown if their shots detonated the explosives in the back, if the driver detonated it with a kill switch, or if another militant did with a remote detonator but the resulting explosion was massive. It left a huge crater in the ground, sending dust and debris into the air. Miraculously, none of the American soldiers were injured but this was just the first wave.

A second suicide vehicular-borne improvised explosive device (SVBIED) came screaming towards the gate and detonated. A third came close behind but failed to explode. After three waves of car bombs, a truck dropped off over a dozen more militants to initiate the ground assault. Machine gunners in the towers laid down a base of fire while snipers also engaged the enemy. The National Guard soldiers say they had a laugh as they received Twitter alerts on their phones in the middle of the firefight from al Shabab accounts, informing them they were under attack. Al Shabab also had a press release prepared and sent it out as soon as the attack got underway, two National Guard troops told Connecting Vets.

Part of the unit's defense planning included logging target reference points or TRPs for mortar systems to quickly vector in on during combat. The unit's 60mm, 81mm, and 120mm all fired on the perimeter, killing any al Shabab militants still alive. A picture of the aftermath shown to Connecting Vets depicted multiple PKM machine guns and RPG-7 rocket launchers that the enemy had brought to the fight along with the bodies of dead al Shabab militants. 

A drone strike took out the SVBIED that failed to detonate.

In a statement to Connecting Vets AFRICOM confirmed, the attack was, "initiated by three (3) Vehicle-Borne Improvised Explosive Devices and enemy small arms and RPG fire by a group of violent extremist fighters." However, AFRICOMs assessment was that there were ten enemy killed in action, whereas soldiers who were present for the firefight stated it was at least double that. Some of the sources Connecting Vets spoke to believed that al Shabab was specifically targeting the drones on their base, inferring that the first SVBIED was intended to breach the back gate which was directly adjacent to the airfield. Had that been accomplished the National Guard soldiers explained, the proceeding two SVBIEDs would have been able to drive onto the airfield and right into the hangars where the drones would have been parked.

After the attack, AFRICOM released a brief statement to counter the al Shabab propaganda claiming to have killed American soldiers while the attack was still ongoing.  In reality, not a single American was hurt during the attack aside from one troop who had a concussion. This was largely due to the unit's careful defensive planning in the run-up to the attack. Several media outlets published short blurbs mentioning the attack, but it quickly faded from public view. Some of the soldiers on the ground felt the US ambassador to Somalia wanted to downplay the event. The troops at BMA were quietly awarded badges for having been engaged in combat, receiving the Combat Infantry Badge or Combat Action Badge depending on their military occupational specialty. 

It was a staggering defeat for al Shabab.  Based on their knowledge of how the attack unfolded, several soldiers involved strongly believe that al Shabab next went looking for softer targets, finding one in Kenya. 

At Manda Bay, not far from the Somalian border is a Kenyan military base where American soldiers operate. On January 5th, the base was raided by al Shabab. According to a recent New York Times article, the militants fired a RPG at a Beechcraft King Air 350 used for surveillance. The rocket detonated, killing the two pilots, American L3 contractors named Dustin Harrison and Bruce Triplett. The militants then assaulted the base, destroying aircraft and a fuel depot. During the firefight, U.S Army Specialist Henry Mayfield Jr. was killed. His death, and the attack itself, was overshadowed by the standoff between America and Iran triggered by the drone strike that killed Quds Force leader Qassem Soleimani. 

In both attacks, aerial assets were directly targeted by al Shabab. The aircraft at Manda Bay and the drones at BMA are strategic assets, not easily replaced.

AFRICOM could not confirm whether the two attacks were linked, a spokesperson stating that "the Jan. 5 al-Shabaab attack on Manda Bay is still under investigation, I am unable to speculate if there is a connection between these two attacks and why that location was targeted."

A spokesperson for the New Jersey National Guard said they could not comment on the incident as their unit was under federal auspices during the attack in Somalia but added, "The deploying New Jersey Army National Guard Soldiers went through extensive training in order to meet their mission. Clearly, they were prepared to be confronted with any conflict and all of our Soldiers returned home from deployment."

 

[collectionneur]

Rapport américain sur la Somalie sans surprise : Les Shebabs toujours présent en force, 1000 actions violentes recensés l'année dernière dans ce pays et au Kenya. L'état somalien est toujours faible et dépend de l'étranger, quelques progrès au niveau des lois contre le blanchiment d'argent et le contrôle de zones près de Mogadiscio :

http://www.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20200625-lutte-contre-les-shebabs-en-somalie-les-américains-critiquent-vis-à-vis-autorités

[Gibbs le Cajun]

Un superbe documentaire de monsieur Buffon, sur les derniers chrétiens de Somalie. Il est très intéressant de voir le contexte et la vision des miliciens, mais aussi des chefs qui versent dans l'islamisme, et le discours de l'un d'eux devrait faire comprendre que si lui imagine le futur du monde sous la loi du Coran alors qu'il n'est rien dans l'échelle hiérarchique du monde islamiste, imaginer se que peuvent penser les pays qui ont les moyens d'agir sous divers angles en prosélytisme, avec l'argent et leur diplomatie... Et quand on voit que les enfants survivent dans l'optique du clan ou un repas et le khat sont fournis... Avec le Coran en fond... Ben voilà... 

Mais qui s'intéressera à ces derniers chrétiens de Somalie ? Personne... Même pas le Vatican... Oui un jour tout cela on le paiera... Surtout quand on voit déjà se qui arrive avec le putain de prosélytisme islamique en France... Et je sais de quoi je parle... 

L'ennemi est bien défini, mais on aura laissé faire depuis trop longtemps par clientélisme... 

Oui les chrétiens sont effectivement la religion la plus persécutée dans le monde, et c'est reconnu comme une réalité. Bien évidemment faut pas mettre tout le monde dans le même sac, mais au vu de notre gestion de cette problématique islamiste, on aura nous même mis dans une position très inconfortable les musulmans qui ne posent pas de pb... 

Enfin voilà...Somalie année zéro, c'est pas le Cambodge mais bon... 

 

[Lezard-vert]

Il y a 3 heures, Gibbs le Cajun a dit :

Un superbe documentaire de monsieur Buffon, sur les derniers chrétiens de Somalie. Il est très intéressant de voir le contexte et la vision des miliciens, mais aussi des chefs qui versent dans l'islamisme, et le discours de l'un d'eux devrait faire comprendre que si lui imagine le futur du monde sous la loi du Coran alors qu'il n'est rien dans l'échelle hiérarchique du monde islamiste, imaginer se que peuvent penser les pays qui ont les moyens d'agir sous divers angles en prosélytisme, avec l'argent et leur diplomatie... Et quand on voit que les enfants survivent dans l'optique du clan ou un repas et le khat sont fournis... Avec le Coran en fond... Ben voilà... 

Mais qui s'intéressera à ces derniers chrétiens de Somalie ? Personne... Même pas le Vatican... Oui un jour tout cela on le paiera... Surtout quand on voit déjà se qui arrive avec le putain de prosélytisme islamique en France... Et je sais de quoi je parle... 

L'ennemi est bien défini, mais on aura laissé faire depuis trop longtemps par clientélisme... 

Oui les chrétiens sont effectivement la religion la plus persécutée dans le monde, et c'est reconnu comme une réalité. Bien évidemment faut pas mettre tout le monde dans le même sac, mais au vu de notre gestion de cette problématique islamiste, on aura nous même mis dans une position très inconfortable les musulmans qui ne posent pas de pb... 

Enfin voilà...Somalie année zéro, c'est pas le Cambodge mais bon... 

 

C'est pas le bon fil certes

 

Ceci étant  les "séparatistes"  sont déjà chez nous ...et à l'offensive

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2020/10/11/a-champigny-sur-marne-le-commissariat-attaque-par-une-quarantaine-de-personnes_6055612_3224.html?contributions

et agissent en toute impunité..... peut être faudrait il déployer un contingent de Barkanes chez nous aussi ?

 

 

 

 

Quelles tactiques pour endiguer tout ça ? !  Quand prendra-t on le taureau par les cornes

 

[Ciders]

Je ne vois pas le lien entre islam et émeute urbaine.

Quant au fait d'envoyer l'armée dans les cités, c'est un concept éculé, qui excite bien les journalistes mais qui n'a rien d'avantageux ni de concret.

[Lezard-vert]

il y a 54 minutes, Ciders a dit :

Je ne vois pas le lien entre islam et émeute urbaine.

Quant au fait d'envoyer l'armée dans les cités, c'est un concept éculé, qui excite bien les journalistes mais qui n'a rien d'avantageux ni de concret.

moi je oui je vois un lien qui me parait évident - il y a du mutualisme entre les communautés musulmanes sous dépendance et les dealers de drogue dans la mesures ou leurs effets permettent de contrôler mieux leurs "troupeaux" au dépend de loi républicaine chez nous, comme c'est aussi le cas entre trafiquants en tout genre et islamistes radicaux dans les pays du sahel au dépend d'un pouvoir central. Là ou prospère l'un, l'autre aussi prospère. les deux communautés veulent s'affranchir de la loi et vont dans le même sens.

 

[Ciders]

il y a 10 minutes, Lezard-vert a dit :

moi je oui je vois un lien qui me parait évident - il y a du mutualisme entre les communautés musulmanes sous dépendance et les dealers de drogue dans la mesures ou leurs effets permettent de contrôler mieux leurs "troupeaux" au dépend de loi républicaine chez nous, comme c'est aussi le cas entre trafiquants en tout genre et islamistes radicaux dans les pays du sahel au dépend d'un pouvoir central. Là ou prospère l'un, l'autre aussi prospère. les deux communautés veulent s'affranchir de la loi et vont dans le même sens.

Ah.

Moi qui croyait qu'il s'agissait d'une bête affaire de trafic avec volonté de contrôler le territoire.

[kalligator]

ça me rappelle cette histoire à Dijon ou des tchétchènes sont venu régler un compte avec des magrébins, c'est deux iman proche des frères musulman qui ont résolu l'affaire., pas les autorité politico-sécuritaires. Zone de non droit ? oui je le crains.

[Gibbs le Cajun]

Je ne pensais pas qu'il y avait autant de soldats US présent en Somalie. 

 

[collectionneur]

L’hôtel Afrik dans le centre de Mogadiscio est attaqué ce soir. Voiture piégé et commando armée :

https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/somalie-une-attaque-des-shebab-en-cours-dans-un-hotel-de-mogadiscio-20210131

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/31/africa/somalia-hotel-siege-intl/index.html

Localisation de l'hotel :

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Afrik+Hotel/@2.0299595,45.3101475,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xcbc5519a7a867a7b!8m2!3d2.0299595!4d45.3101475

Modifié le 31 janvier 2021 par collectionneur

[collectionneur]

Une base a été attaqué dans le centre de la Somalie. Le bilan reste confus. Et le Puntland a exécuté 21 prisonniers en même temps, ''record'' national d'application de la peine capitale dans ce pays :

https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/somalie-au-moins-12-morts-dans-l-attaque-d-une-base-militaire-et-d-une-ville-20210627

Modifié le 28 juin 2021 par collectionneur

[Rob1]

La décoration d'un béret vert US donne quelques infos sur les combats de la reprise de Baardheere en juillet 2015 : https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2021-07-07/silver-star-somalia-bravery-green-beret-army-doyle-2075337.html

 

Modifié le 7 juillet 2021 par Rob1

[collectionneur]

@Rob1 Mise en référence sur l'article de la ville de Bardera en question :

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardera

[collectionneur]

Attaque en cours ce matin dans l'enceinte de l'aéroport de Mogadiscio. Les shebabs annoncent attaqué le quartier des ambassades :

https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/somalie-fusillade-en-cours-pres-de-l-aeroport-de-mogadiscio-20220323

[collectionneur]

Une lourde attaque contre l'hôtel Hayat a Mogadiscio a duré une trentaine d'heures. Elle a débuté vendredi soir, et fait au fait au moins 21 victimes civiles et 117 blessés :

https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/somalie-au-moins-13-civils-tues-dans-une-attaque-shebab-a-mogadiscio-20-08-2022-2486851_24.php

[collectionneur]

Abdullahi Yare, un des cofondateurs du mouvement islamiste Shebab, a été tué par une frappe de drone le 1er octobre 2022 lancée par l'armée somalienne et ses «partenaires internationaux de sécurité» près de la ville côtière de Haramka, a indiqué le ministère de l'Information. Abdullahi Yare était considéré comme le candidat pour prendre la tête du mouvement à la place de son chef malade Ahmed Diriye.

https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/somalie-au-moins-9-morts-dans-deux-attaques-suicides-des-jihadistes-shebab-20221003

Il y avait une prime de trois millions de dollars sur lui :

https://rewardsforjustice.net/rewards/abdullahi-yare/

Mais «Les terroristes ont mené des attaques suicides en utilisant deux véhicules remplis d'explosifs à Beledweyne», à environ 300 km au nord de la capitale Mogadiscio, a déclaré Mohamed Moalim Ali, commandant de police dans la région du Hiiraan, précisant que «neuf personnes ont été tuées, dont la ministre de la santé de l'état d'Hirshabelle et un commissaire de district chargé des finances (...), et plus de 10 autres blessées»....

On a dépassé les 30 ans de guerre civile en Somalie et toujours pas de solution en vue, surtout que la famine menace de nouveau...

 

 

[Paschi]

Somalie : plus d’un demi-million d’enfants désormais confrontés à la malnutrition

https://www.ungeneva.org/fr/news-media/news/2022/09/somalie-plus-dun-demi-million-denfants-desormais-confrontes-la-malnutrition

Les Nations Unies qualifient la situation alimentaire en Somalie de « très alarmante ». Mardi, un haut responsable de l’ONU a averti que le pays était au bord de la famine pour la deuxième fois en un peu plus d’une décennie. Près de 200 000 personnes sont actuellement en danger.

https://fr.africanews.com/2022/09/28/securite-alimentaire-la-somalie-au-bord-de-la-famine//

[collectionneur]

Double attentat contre le  ministère de l'éducation faisant une centaine de tués et des centaines de blessés le samedi 29 octobre 2022. Les hôpitaux sont une nouvelle fois saturés;

Je n'ai même pas vu passé cela dans les bandeaux des chaînes d'information....

https://www.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20221029-somalie-double-attentat-à-mogadiscio

https://www.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20221030-attentat-somalie-mogadiscio-morts-blesses-lutte-contre-shebabs-hopitaux-satures

[collectionneur]

Article en anglais de la BBC sur une brigade somalienne (1500 hommes devant passer a 3000) entrainée et financé par les États-Unis qui depuis quelques mois combattent dans le centre de la Somalie et reprennent plusieurs dizaines de villages avec l'appui de drones US. Il s'agit de la brigade Danab, aka Foudre :

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63704004