Oh la vache, je suis retourné voir. Leur forum est mort, c'est le désert comparé aux années 2000 mais le couple Herald/Hamilcar/keffler25 vs Bluewings/HR y joue encore scènes de ménage, et le premier bashe toujours le Rafale avec des arguments risibles : «The Rafale, while a decent aircraft for 1980, is frankly yesterday's tech bottled in a compromised design logic that makes no today sense. The French wanted a NAVAL multi-role plane that could do it all and they got a short ranged bomb truck with weak air-to-air capability that costs too much to make.»