S-37 Berkut Posté(e) le 11 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 11 février 2013 Le premier chasseur de 5e génération russo-indien pourrait voir le jour en 2015-2016, a déclaré mardi aux journalistes le directeur du Service fédéral russe pour la coopération militaire et technique (FSVTS) Alexandre Fomine.http://fr.rian.ru/defense/20130205/197433313.html Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
zx Posté(e) le 12 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 12 février 2013 http://livefist.blogspot.fr/2013/02/hal-articulates-mmrca-challenges.html It is well known that there have been hiccups in contract negotiations with Dassault Aviation for the Rafale as far as technology transfer to HAL is concerned. Last week, HAL chairman R.K. Tyagi touched upon some of those challenges in his presentation at the Aero India 2013 seminar. The two slides you see above are from that presentation. The first slide gives you the first real sense of just how big a challenge HAL is viewing the MMRCA license build as. The second slide provides a sense of the technologies that HAL feels will accrue to itself and partner private sector companies through the transfer of technology process. Last week, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne had said that HAL would be lead integrator of the license-produced MMRCA aircraft in India, no matter what other partherships Dassault established inside or outside the country as far as kits and assemblies were concerned. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
touriste Posté(e) le 12 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 12 février 2013 .../ En 2012, l'Inde a eu un portefeuille de commandes d'armes supérieur à 7 milliards de dollars. Les effets collatéraux commencent d'ailleurs à se faire sentir: Le Dir. Adm. de Finmeccanica est au frais depuis ce matin, celui de Agusta Westland est "au piquet": http://www.corriere.it/cronache/13_febbraio_11/arrestato-giuseppe-orsi-sospette-tangenti_133b70a4-7494-11e2-b945-c75ed2830f7b.shtml Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Perry Posté(e) le 12 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 12 février 2013 Si j'ai bien lu, la perche du Tejas MK2 sera rétractable. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Philippe Top-Force Posté(e) le 12 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 12 février 2013 Les effets collatéraux commencent d'ailleurs à se faire sentir: Le Dir. Adm. de Finmeccanica est au frais depuis ce matin, celui de Agusta Westland est "au piquet": http://www.corriere.it/cronache/13_febbraio_11/arrestato-giuseppe-orsi-sospette-tangenti_133b70a4-7494-11e2-b945-c75ed2830f7b.shtml http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2013/02/12/97002-20130212FILWWW00481-inde-enquete-sur-1-vente-d-helicopteres.php Les autorités indiennes ont annoncé mardi une enquête sur des informations faisant état de la corruption présumée de responsables indiens par le groupe aéronautique italien Finmeccanica, après l'arrestation du président du groupe par la police italienne. "Une enquête du CBI (Bureau central d'enquête) a été ordonnée et plus de détails seront donnés bientôt", a déclaré un porte-parole du ministère indien de la Défense. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Henri K. Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Publication de Jane's, à consommer avec modération... India finally pulls plug on Kaveri engine Rahul Bedi New Delhi India's state-run Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has abandoned long-standing plans to power the indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) with its GTX-35VS Kaveri engine. "The Kaveri engine will not be in the LCA being provided to the services," P S Subramanyam, head of the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) responsible for designing the Tejas, told the Press Trust of India in Bangalore on 30 January. However, he added that the Tejas would support Kaveri's future flight-tests and eventual certification. The estimated 140 Mk I and Mk II LCAs likely to be inducted into the Indian Air Force (IAF) over the next decade will be powered by General Electric (GE) F404-GE-IN20 and F414-GE-INS5 engines respectively. DRDO officials said that a version of the Kaveri would now be "deployed" to the ADA's nascent unmanned strike air vehicle (USAV) programme as the proposed pilotless bomber would not only be lighter but would also need to manoeuvre less sharply than the LCA. As a result, the USAV would not require as much thrust from its power pack as that required for a combat aircraft. The DRDO is also considering collaborating with an overseas engine maker to eventually develop Kaveri to power the fifth-generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft it plans to design and build over the next two to three decades. While Kaveri has been under development by the Bangalore-based Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) since 1989 at a cost of more than INR18.92 billion (USD344 million), it is far from ready. Years of negotiations with France's Snecma to forge a collaborative venture with the GTRE to overcome technical shortcomings were terminated in mid-2009. Thereafter, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) considered repurposing the engine to power commercial and naval ships, tanks and even locomotives. However, the DRDO and the MoD continued to insist that the Kaveri would eventually replace the LCA's GE engines and persisted not only in funding its development but in proclaiming its purported efficiency. These claims proved unfounded in 2010-11 following the disappointing performance of a Kaveri prototype aboard an Il-76 transport test-bed at Russia's Gromov Flight Research Institute. During these trials the Kaveri generated 49.2 KN of 'dry thrust' or engine output during routine flight and only 70.4 KN of 'wet thrust' or optimum power needed for take-off and aerial combat manoeuvres. This was far short of the GTRE's professed output of 51 KN and 81 KN respectively. Indian officials have confirmed that the Kaveri engine will not enter service with the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft. Copyright © IHS Global Limited, 2013 Aero India 2013: India completes airfield radar upgrade Gareth Jennings Bangalore The Indian military has completed the installation of the Selex Galileo 2080C Precision Approach Radar (PAR) systems at 18 of its bases as part of a wider airfield modernisation programme, industry officials told IHS Jane's on 6 February. Speaking at the Aero India Airshow in Bangalore, PAR engineer Leonardo Tristano said the containerised air traffic control system was now fully operational at 17 Indian Air Force (IAF) and one Indian Navy airfields. The 2080C PAR system is an X-Band radar designed to help the pilot land in adverse weather, particularly heavy monsoon rains, Tristano said, with the ground controller able to track the inbound aircraft's elevation and azimuth to a range of 20 n miles via a PC-based display. The Indian Air Force system is composed of two antennas and an electronics shelter, connected to existing air traffic control and visualisation systems, and is able to handle up to 32 aircraft simultaneously. Although just 18 Indian installations have been equipped with the system so far, Tristano said Selex was working with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) on setting up more units. At present the IAF is upgrading 30 of its 65 airbases under the 42-month USD240 million Modernisation of Air Field Infrastructure (MAFI) programme. This programme, which is aimed at ensuring these facilities are capable of handling all IAF aircraft types at all times and in all weather conditions, includes the fitting of new automated air traffic control management and instrument landing systems, distance measuring apparatus, and a Doppler VHF omni-range navigation system. Work is expected to be complete by the end of 2015. In addition to the 30 bases already earmarked for improvement, the Indian Ministry of Defence has an option to modernise 30 more facilities, including some used by the Indian Army, Indian Navy and Indian Coast Guard. Copyright © IHS Global Limited, 2013 Aero India 2013: Latest AMCA concept model shows subtle design changes Gareth Jennings Bangalore The Indian Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is showcasing a slightly revised design of the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) at the Aero India Airshow 2013 in Bangalore. The basic design for the next generation multirole stealth aircraft was meant to have been finalised in mid-2012, but a scale model of the concept being displayed at the event from 6 to 9 February shows a number of subtle modifications have been made. This latest design of the AMCA appears somewhat sleeker and its planform much more closely resembles the diamond-wing configuration of the Northrop YF-23 demonstrator aircraft. However, whereas the YF-23 had low observable engine nozzles, those of the AMCA are of the conventional rounded type, which will impact the aircraft's rearward stealth properties. In addition to the subtle changes in its planform, the wings on the latest incarnation of the AMCA also appear to be set further forward on the fuselage than before, its horizontal stabilizers are now angled to reduce the aircraft's radar, and the canted vertical stabilizers are set further apart than had been the case before. In respects of its other design aspects there is a strong level of consistency with prior display models. For example, the stealth characteristics, such as the serpentine engine intake trunks, conformal antennas and fuel tanks, and minimised radar signature, all resembled previously released concepts. Intended as an eventual multirole replacement for the Indian Air Force, (IAF's) SEPECAT Jaguar and Dassault Mirage fleets, the AMCA concept has been in development for some years now. Possible roles for the aircraft include air defence, suppression of enemy air defences (SEAD), precision strike, maritime attack, and 'special missions'. While the AMCA was originally intended to be powered by two variants of the GTRE Kaveri turbofan, it is not known what bearing the recent decision to replace that powerplant on the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Tejas light combat aircraft with the General Electric F414 might have on this. The Maiden flight for the AMCA is expected to take place in 2017, with service entry set to a post-2020 timeframe. The latest model of the AMCA being displayed at Aero India 2013 features a number of subtle design changes from previous models show. Most noticably, its planform much more closely resembles the diamond-wing configuration of the Northrop YF-23 demonstrator aircraft. Copyright © IHS Global Limited, 2013 India's Tejas IOC suffers yet more delays Rahul Bedi Bangalore Conclusive initial operational clearance (IOC) for India's locally designed Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) has been further deferred to the end of the year, postponing its active squadron service with the Indian Air Force (IAF) by nearly a decade to 2015 if not beyond. At Aero India Defence Minister A K Antony castigated the state-run Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) responsible for designing the LCA for the recurring delays, saying he was "impatient" to see the Tejas fully operational. "Delays in [the LCA's] delivery are a real problem; they should be avoided," the normally mild-mannered minister fumed. "By my estimate it [iOC-II] should be obtained by end-2013, while the final operational clearance should take another 18 months," Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne told reporters at Aero India on 7 February, revising his earlier end-2012 timeline. The LCA had hurriedly obtained its 'preliminary' IOC-I from the Center for Military Airworthiness and Certification in Bangalore in January 2011. Thereafter, however, it has been unable to stabilise over 500-600 'test points' or operational and technical parameters of the LCA's weaponisation, radar functioning and agility, especially its excessive weight. ACM Browne said the ADA needed to further modify Tejas to enable it to operate in high-altitude areas as its General Electric F404-GE-IN20 engine "did not work" during the recent round of trials in the northern mountainous Leh region. The ACM said such delays and slippages "restricted" the IAF's modernisation plans and radically proposed imposing financial penalties on weapon designers and builders for these critical lapses. The INR140.47 billion (USD2.55 billion) LCA programme, launched in 1983, is over a decade behind schedule and has consistently been beset by technological problems. All 10 limited series production LCAs, for instance, were grounded for over three months until November 2012 after it was found that the pilot's helmet protruded above the aircraft's ejection seat. This could have prevented a smooth ejection if the pilot's helmet hit the canopy before it was blown off. IAF sources said it took the ADA three months to modify the Martin Baker ejection seats and provide a back-up mechanism to blow off the LCA canopy before the pilot's helmet struck it, resulting in yet more delays. The IAF eventually plans to raise seven LCA squadrons, or some 140 aircraft, including around 14 twin-seat trainer models, which would be based at Sulur in southern Tamil Nadu state. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which would initially build eight LCAs annually, claimed at Aero India that it would eventually double their production to 16 per year. The IAF's first 42 LCAs will be powered by F404-GE-IN20 engines, which will be replaced in subsequent LCA Mk 2 models by the General Electric GE-F414 powerpack. The latter has a greater 90-100 kN thrust to enable the Tejas to carry a heavier weapons load and execute enhanced angles of attack. A USD900 million deal to procure 99 GE-F414 engines is likely to be signed soon, with additional engines being acquired later if required, IAF officials said. Meanwhile, the single-seat LCA Naval Prototype 2 (NP2) variant for carrier-based operations is being readied for its maiden flight around April - nearly three years behind schedule - following ongoing taxiing trials, according to ADA officials. NP1, the twin-seat naval trainer prototype that made its maiden flight in April 2012 in Bangalore, is being imminently readied for ski-jump trials at the Indian Navy's (INs) shore-based testing facility (SBTF) at Goa on the country's west coast to confirm its compatibility with deck-based operations. Sukesh Nagraj, LCA (Navy) deputy project director, told IHS Jane's at Aero India that by mid-2014 a standard production NP5 prototype would be ready ahead of building eight LCA(N) limited series production models powered by F404-GE-IN20 engines. However, the follow-on LCA(N) Mk 2 version is to be fitted with the more powerful GE-F414 engine. The IN plans to acquire around 54 of these aircraft to operate off its 37,500-ton indigenous aircraft carrier, currently under construction at Kochi in southern India. Nagraj said the LCA(N)'s weapons complement would be "80% compatible" with the standard Tejas and will include the Russian R-73 (AA-11 'Archer') short-range air-to-air missile (AAM) along with Israeli firm Rafael's Python AAM and beyond-visual-range Derby AAM, which will be used in conjunction with the Northrop Grumman/Rafael Litening targeting pod. Official sources said that, while EADS (as with the Tejas) would be the LCA(N)'s design consultants, a separate agreement was reached with the US Navy in 2010 to qualify the aircraft for carrier operations. A USN team of pilots, ground crew and technicians twice visited Goa's STBF facility in late 2012 and ADA sources said they would also be advising on technologies regarding the LCA(N)'s ski-jump take-off and arrestor-hook landings. Copyright © IHS Global Limited, 2013 Aero India 2013: Airbus sees MRTT downselect as opening the door to future Indian opportunities Gareth Jennings Bangalore Airbus Military has high hopes of securing future defence aerospace contracts in India following the recent downselection of its A330 Multirole Tanker Transport (MRTT) aircraft to fulfil the country's aerial refuelling requirement, a senior company official told IHS Jane's on 8 February. Speaking at the Aero India 2013 Airshow in Bangalore, Ian Elliot, Vice-President Defence Capability Market Development, described the downselect of the A330 MRTT as a "breakthrough" moment in the company's dealings with India. "It's important to us, not just because we've sold an extra six tankers, but because of the great industrial significance of this breakthrough contract in India. We hope that, through this contract, we will then get to understand the complexities of the Indian market, such that we are well placed for follow-on competitions." According to Elliot, Airbus is negotiating its offset obligations with a number of Indian companies. He declined to name these companies or how the offset obligations might be met, but said that an announcement would be made later in the year. Following on from the aerial refuelling requirement, Elliot said the next big opportunity for the company in India is the air force's Light Tactical Transport Procurement Programme, which is otherwise known as the Avro replacement programme. This will see the Indian Air Force (IAF) replace its Avro 748M light transport aircraft with 56 new-build platforms, 40 of which will be built in-country by the Indian private sector. "The Avro replacement is the next big one, and in terms of what they do we are very confident that our C295 is almost custom made for the job," Elliot said, adding that he expects the Indian government to issue a request for proposals (RfP) in the first half of 2013. While Airbus Military is focusing its C295 effort on the Avro replacement programme, Elliot said that the platform's multirole capabilities would stand it in good stead to fulfil other national requirements. "[The Avro replacement programme] opens up some interesting doors for us. As well as the C295's basic air transport role we have managed to very successfully adapt the aircraft to other roles, such as maritime patrol, gunships, airborne early warning, fire fighting etc. We know there are other parts of the Indian machine that are looking for such products, so it makes it attractive to other Indian operators, such as the navy and coastguard etc." Elliot said that the multirole nature of the C295 and it prospective multi-agency customer base, could go a long way to making the 40-aircraft Avro replacement production line financially viable. Also, as with Alenia Aermacchi which is offering its C-27J Spartan into the competition, Airbus might consider using an Indian production line to fulfil regional orders for its aircraft. "We would consider centering regional C295 production in India (it's something we've done with Indonesia for the C212). If you look at the potential market size for this type of platform in all its different roles it is pretty sizeable, and we could potentially have numerous production sites around the world. It's something we would certainly consider." Another potential Indian opportunity for Airbus Military is its A400M Atlas transport aircraft. "The Indians have a diverse airlift requirement - the geographic, topographic, and meteorological diversity of the country, coupled with its diverse security and humanitarian challenges [provide] a market for the A400M. The Indian Air Force adopted a similar philosophy for its fast jet procurement - light, medium and heavy - and I can see them doing something similar for fixed-wing transport," Elliot noted. However, while he is enthusiastic about the capabilities that the A400M could bring to the IAF, he conceded that the air force might not have the budget to procure it in the near-term. "There is serious potential in this country for the A400M, but not until the next decade. Having only just bought C-17s and C-130Js, we think it would be unrealistic for the Indian Air Force to straight away spend a load more on the A400M." Copyright © IHS Global Limited, 2013 Aero India 2013: Indian officials confident of signing MMRCA contract by mid-2013 Rahul Bedi Bangalore The Indian Air Force (IAF) is hopeful of signing the deal for 126 Dassault Rafales to meet its Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) requirement by mid-2013. "All processes have to be followed by the Ministry of Defence [MoD] to complete this complex purchase, however time-consuming these might be," Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne declared at Aero India 2013 exhibition in Bangalore on 7 February. Browne said the MoD's Contract Negotiation Committee (CNC), appointed in February 2012, would conclude deliberations with Dassault on the Rafale's cost, technology transfer and offset obligations sometime in May, after which the proposal would be forwarded to the federal government for final clearance. "We are hopeful of a firm decision by the middle of the year," he said - a revision of earlier statements that the MMRCA deal would be signed in the current financial year ending in March. Senior IAF sources told IHS Jane's that the MMRCA tender would not, as had been widely anticipated in diplomatic circles, be signed during French President François Hollande's visit to India on 14 February. On 6 February Defence Minister A K Antony said that the negotiation committee still needed to go through "six or seven layers" - of what he declined to identify - before passing the proposal onto the federal finance ministry for approval. "We cannot short cut procedures. But if everyone takes proper care to ensure that nothing wrong happens, I am sure we will be able to speed it up," Antony said. "There will be no compromise regarding transparency [in concluding the tender]," added Antony, who is known for his cautionary approach to all procurement contracts. He also clarified that the criteria stipulated in the August 2007 MMRCA request for proposals (RfP) were "non-negotiable". There had been speculation that the licensed production of 108 Rafales by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) - 18 aircraft are being acquired in fly-away condition - would be curtailed or awarded to a private sector contractor partnering Dassault. ACM Browne too reiterated that in line with the MMRCA RfP, HAL would remain the prime integrator for Rafale. Defence industry sources, however, told IHS Jane's that Browne and Antony's optimism on sealing the MMRCA deal in 2013 was "overstated", saying that the recent INR100 billion (USD1.8 billion) cuts to India's defence procurement budget could delay the MMRCA acquisition, along with more expected reductions. They said the overall MMRCA price had almost doubled to around USD19 billion: an amount that the federal government, which is fighting rising inflation and a spiraling deficit, could ill afford. The MMRCA programme is one of element of IAF plans to induct 300-400 new fixed- and rotary-wing platforms by 2022. Another is the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), which HAL is co-developing with Russia. ACM Browne said three FGFA prototypes - based on the Sukhoi T-50/PAK-FA (Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsy or Prospective Aircraft Complex of Frontline Aviation) programme - would be delivered to HAL's Ojhar unit in west India between 2015 and 2018. Thereafter, the fighter design would be finalised to IAF requirements before HAL began series production in 2022. "The equipment we decide on could be different to what the Russian Air Force wants," ACM Browne said. "We should get what we need and want on the FGFA." Copyright © IHS Global Limited, 2013 Henri K. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
DAR Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Years of negotiations with France's Snecma to forge a collaborative venture with the GTRE to overcome technical shortcomings were terminated in mid-2009. Quid des transferts de technologie prévus dans le cadre de la vente des Rafales ? N'auraient-ils pas permis de poursuivre ce programme du moteur Kaveri ? En tout cas, on en revient toujours au même constat : comparativement aux Chinois, les Indiens rament à développer des matériels militaires complexes. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Claudio Lopez Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Quid des transferts de technologie prévus dans le cadre de la vente des Rafales ? N'auraient-ils pas permis de poursuivre ce programme du moteur Kaveri ? En tout cas, on en revient toujours au même constat : comparativement aux Chinois, les Indiens rament à développer des matériels militaires complexes. Pas étonnant, une culture industrielle ne s'acquiert pas en quelques années mais plutôt en quelques DIZAINES d'années. Il n'y a qu'à voir leur Mig 21 qui tombent comme des mouches avec les pièces de détachées "Made In India" et la fabuleux "succès" industriel de la TATA Mobile . Moi, je sens que nos ingénieures vont bien s'amuser lorsqu'ils vont tenter de leur inculquer la rigueur nécéssaire pour construire les pièces du Raffy . Déjà que les russes ne sont pas parvenues à leur inculquer en 40 ans alors ça promet.... :| Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Nenel Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Une touche d'humour. ALFaviation Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Henri K. Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Déjà que les russes ne sont pas parvenues à leur inculquer en 40 ans alors ça promet.... :| Ça arrange tout le monde... Henri K. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
FATac Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 13 février 2013 Moi, je sens que nos ingénieures vont bien s'amuser lorsqu'ils vont tenter de leur inculquer la rigueur nécéssaire pour construire les pièces du Raffy . Déjà que les russes ne sont pas parvenues à leur inculquer en 40 ans alors ça promet.... :| M'est avis que si, dans l'avion présidentiel qui fait la tournée là-bas en ce moment, il y a certains des directeurs des Grandes Ecoles d'Ingénieurs françaises en accompagnement des politiques et des industriels, ce n'est pas totalement sans raison. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Henri K. Posté(e) le 14 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 14 février 2013 Jane's... Un autre crash, le pilote s'est éjecté. Indian MiG-27 lost in training accident Gareth Jennings London An Indian Air Force (IAF) MiG-27M 'Flogger' combat aircraft crashed during a routine training sortie over the Rajasthan district of the country on 12 February, local media reported. The Russian-built single-seat fighter reportedly came down immediately after departing Uttarlai airbase. The pilot is said to have ejected safely. The air force currently operates approximately 80 MiG-27M aircraft, which have been in service since 1985. In October 2012 Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne said that the majority of the IAF's MiG fleets, including the MiG-27, will be retired by 2017. With the MiGs retired, the IAF will field a fast jet inventory comprised of Sukhoi Su-30MKIs, Dassault Rafales, upgraded Dassault Mirage 2000Hs, re-engined and enhanced SEPECAT Jaguars, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, and possibly the HAL Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) and Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA/Prospective Multirole Fighter (PMF). Copyright © IHS Global Limited, 2013 Henri K. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Claudio Lopez Posté(e) le 14 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 14 février 2013 Comme on pouvoit s'y attendre, il n'y aura rien de nouveau concernant les Rafales En Inde.Juste que notre président a bon espoir et reste prudent.http://www.leparisien.fr/politique/rafale-et-nucleaire-civil-au-menu-du-voyage-de-hollande-en-inde-14-02-2013-2567167.phpVoilà un autre article plus optimiste . =)http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/20130214trib000748815/le-rafale-sur-la-piste-d-envol-en-inde.html Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
zx Posté(e) le 14 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 14 février 2013 Contrat indien du Rafale : « des progrès dans les discussions », selon Hollande http://www.lesechos.fr/entreprises-secteurs/air-defense/actu/0202566871820-contrat-indien-du-rafale-des-progres-dans-les-discussions-selon-hollande-538512.php Signer entre la mi-2013 et la fin de l'année Si ce contrat se concrétise, il s'agira, après une longue série de déceptions, du premier succès à l'exportation pour l'avion de combat français engagé sur les théâtres d'opérations afghan, libyen et malien. Le PDG de Dassault Aviation, Eric Trappier, disait récemment espérer conclure la vente des Rafale à l'Inde avant la fin de l'année. La semaine dernière, le chef d'état-major de l'armée de l'air indienne a déclaré pour sa part espérer une signature « avant la mi-2013 » http://iphone.france24.com/fr/20130214-francois-hollande-contrat-inde-rafale-nucleaire-france-tecnologies?ns_campaign=editorial&ns_source=RSS_public&ns_mchannel=RSS&ns_fee=0&ns_linkname=20130214_francois_hollande_contrat_inde_rafale_nucleaire EXCLUSIF : "Il y aura des contrats signés" en Inde, assure François Hollande Au cours de sa visite à New Delhi, le président français s'est dit optimiste concernant les futurs contrats qui pourraient être signés entre la France et l'Inde. Entretien exclusif de FRANCE 24 avec le chef de l'État. Le président français, François Hollande, et le Premier ministre indien, Manmohan Singh, ont salué, jeudi 14 février, une nouvelle étape du partenariat stratégique entre leurs deux pays, constatant des "progrès" dans les négociations sur le Rafale. "Je sens un lien qui unit l’Inde à la France. Les Indiens attendent beaucoup de la France, non pas seulement en termes économiques mais en termes culturels, politiques. Une histoire s’est forgée entre la France et l’Inde qui suppose que l’on soit à la hauteur du Contrat pour Eurocopter lors de la visite de Hollande en Inde Eurocopter, une filiale du groupe européen EADS, a signé jeudi un contrat pour fournir 50 hélicoptères civils à la société indienne Aviators. Ce contrat, qui porte sur sept commandes fermes et 43 options, a été signé à l'occasion de la visite d'Etat du président français, François Hollande, en Inde. Le montant de ce contrat n'est pas précisé. (Reuters) défi commun" a confié à FRANCE 24, le chef de l'État français à l'issue de son entretien avec le Premier ministre. François Hollande a, en outre, affirmé à FRANCE 24 qu'il y "aura des contrats signés par les entreprises" qui ont fait le voyage. Et d'ajouter : "ce n'est pas l'État qui signe des contrats, ce sont les entreprises. Notre rôle, c'est d'appuyer, c'est d'accompagner. Ensuite, ce sont aux entreprises, par leur capacité techonologique, par la qualité de leur produit et par l'intelligence de leur démarche commerciale, de signer des contrats." Le Rafale, une question de "confiance" Le président français a également précisé à FRANCE 24 combien il était fier du Rafale. "L'armée française est satisfaite de son utilisation. C'est une technologie d'avant-garde. Mais nous devons donner le cadre politique qui permettra aux Indiens d'avoir confiance en ce matériel." Les discussions avec Paris sur la vente de 126 avions de combat de Dassault Aviation à l'armée de l'air indienne "progressent bien", s'est félicité le Premier ministre indien. "Nous avons constaté des progrès dans la discussion et j'ai bon espoir que nous pourrons parvenir à la conclusion", a renchéri le président français. L'Inde est entrée en janvier 2012 en négociations exclusives avec Dassault pour un contrat estimé à au moins 12 milliards de dollars. Après une longue série de déceptions, il s'agirait du premier succès à l'exportation pour cet appareil déjà engagé sous les couleurs françaises en Afghanistan, en Libye et au Mali. La méthode François Hollande Il a, par ailleurs, ajouté que sa méthode n'était pas la même que celle de Nicolas Sarkozy, qui comparait volontiers le rôle du président à celui d'un "VRP pour la France". "Le rôle du président n'est pas d'être un représentant de commerce. C'est par la bonne entente politique, par le bon environnement que nous sommes capables de créer, et par la confiance que nous pouvons favoriser la conclusion de contrats." Le président français a également évoqué sans plus de précisions "les discussions en cours" sur le nucléaire civil. La France négocie avec l'Inde la construction par Areva de deux réacteurs nucléaires EPR à Jaïtapur, à 400 kilomètres au sud de Bombay, assortie d'une option pour quatre réacteurs supplémentaires. Le contrat sur le Rafale avec l'Inde serait signé en juillet http://fr.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idFRPAE91D06V20130214 Les dossiers contentieux ont été grosso modo aplanis", a déclaré une source du ministère indien de la Défense. "Nous nous attendons à ce qu'un accord puisse être annoncé en juillet." Une date que le PDG de Dassault Aviation, Eric Trappier, n'a pas confirmée, tout en se déclarant "résolument optimiste". "Je m'en réjouis", a-t-il dit à la presse à propos de l'échéance de juillet. "J'y crois puisque c'est le client qui le dit, le client est roi, le client a toujours raison... souvent raison", a-t-il ajouté lors d'un forum économique à New Delhi". "Le plus tôt sera le mieux". India, France Agree On $6 Billion Missile Deal http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/142653/**india,-france-agree-deal-to-develop-$6-bn-air-defense-missile-%3Ci%3E%28updated%29%3C%C2%A7i%3E.html The $6 billion figure is the estimated value of the overall program, of which only part will accrue to MBDA for providing the technology and development assistance. The SRSAM is intended to replace the Trishul air-defense missile that India has been developing for well over a decade, but which has been quietly shelved because of unsatisfactory performance. SRSAM will be largely based on MBDA's Vertical Launch MICA air defense missile, but will feature larger booster motors to increase range and altitude coverage, according to models exhibited by Indian industry and the DRDO at local defense shows. Ultimately, the SRSAM could also replace the latest Barak 8 naval air-defense missile due to be developed by India's DRDO with Israel Aerospace Industries, but which appears to also have been put on the back burner. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Claudio Lopez Posté(e) le 14 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 14 février 2013 Le contrat sur le Rafale avec l'Inde serait signé en juillet http://fr.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idFRPAE91D06V20130214 C'est bon ça . =) Ok, ça me laisse jusqu'en juillet CV pour me préparer afin de postuler chez Dassault :lol: Ils vont devoir embaucher du monde ! =) Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
fox49 Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 pris sur startreak http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/14/us-india-france-rafale-idUSBRE91D09I20130214 Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
prof.566 Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Oui, c'est le "twisting facts" et out of context de Cola qui est très drole... Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
zx Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Avec l'inde, il faut rester prudent, compte tenu de mon expérience, il y a ce qui est dit et ce qui est fait, on a parfois des mauvaises surprises tant quece n'est pas fait. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
pascal Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 L'enjeu en Inde aujourd'hui est clair ce sont les transferts de techno et la mise en place du processus industriel nécessaire à la construction de l'avion sur place. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
TMor Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Oui, c'est le "twisting facts" et out of context de Cola qui est très drole... Cola ? Tu veux dire Jean-Michel Movèzefoit ! :lol: A un tel niveau, ça relève de la ps..... Ah, on me fait signe de ne pas franchir la ligne rouge. La presse nous pousse à bouillonner sur ce dossier des Rafale indiens. Je vais faire semblant de me demander pourquoi. Je reviendrai en Juin/Juillet ! :lol: Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Claudio Lopez Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 pris sur startreak http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/14/us-india-france-rafale-idUSBRE91D09I20130214 India and France are speeding up negotiations on a $10 billion deal for 126 Rafale aircraft following disagreements over the cost of building them in India, which caused months of delays, two Indian Defense Ministry officials told Reuters. Non mais les indiens ont cru au pêre noël ou quoi ? :lol: Ils ont cru que la mise en place l'appareil industriel permettant de construire les principales pièces du Rafale était "donné" . Juste à titre d'exemple, le four qui fabrique certaines pièces concernant la partie chaude du M88 coute à lui seul 80 millions d'euros ! Bref si ils veulent construire eux mêmes les principales pièces du Raffy, il va falloir payer le prix . Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
zx Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Un parapluie anti missile ? Finally, Indo-French SR-SAM Agreement Ready http://livefist.blogspot.fr/2013/02/finally-indo-french-sr-sam-agreement.html In the works for years, negotiations have been successfully concluded by India and France to develop and produce their proposed short-range surface to air missile (SR-SAM), designated 'Maitri'. This was revealed by the Indian Prime Minister yesterday after he met with visiting French President Hollande. More information on the SR-SAM programme from earlier posts: The partnership began in 2007 as part of the umbrella government-to-government agreement between India and France on missiles. The ownership of the Maitri programme will be fully Indian. With baseline technologies from the now defunct Trishul SAM programme, the Maitri programme basically envisages the sale of certain key technologies by MBDA to DRDO (seeker, endgame avionics, thrust vector control, propulsion modifications), though production will not be under a corporate joint venture on the lines of BrahMos, but would rather be carried out entirely by Bharat Dynamics Ltd (BDL), India's state-owned munitions production agency. The Maitri is being built in two basic variants -- a ship-borne point defence and tactical air defence version for the Navy and a land-based self-propelled (wheeled and tracked) launcher-based system for the Air Force and Army. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
amarito Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Le contrat des 12 AW-101 sera abandonné suite a des histoires de pot de vin.http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Govt-to-scrap-Rs-3546-crore-Finmeccanica-chopper-deal/articleshow/18515844.cms Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
Henri K. Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Un parapluie anti missile ? Finally, Indo-French SR-SAM Agreement Ready http://livefist.blogspot.fr/2013/02/finally-indo-french-sr-sam-agreement.html Les caractéristiques de ce système ne correspondent pas à celui d'un anti-balistique, au mieux un système SAM rapproché de champ de bataille. Henri K. Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
FATac Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Share Posté(e) le 15 février 2013 Les caractéristiques de ce système ne correspondent pas à celui d'un anti-balistique, au mieux un système SAM rapproché de champ de bataille. Oui, un truc qui s'appelle "Short Range Surface to Air Missile" paraît plus proche de l'ultime couche défensive de point que du parapluie ABM tel qu'on l'entend habituellement. ;) En gros, c'est la version franco-indienne de l'Aster/Mamba, non ? Lien vers le commentaire Partager sur d’autres sites More sharing options...
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