Re : Marine indonésienne

[Gibbs le Cajun]

Démonstration très indonésienne avec des LVTP7 A1. Bon cela passe même si ce ne dois pas être très bon pour les vertèbres. 

 

 

[Deres]

C'est intéressant ! Tu peux mettre directement des LVTP7 sur le pont de ton BPC et ils se jettent à l'eau tout seul. Faut juste pas qu'ils atteignent l'eau à l'envers 

Plus besoin de sas arrière pour le débarquement.

Idem sur une frégate, tu en mets deux ou trois sur le pont hélicos et ils se jettent à l'eau tout seul sans matos; même si ils semblent avoir besoin d'un peu d'élan.

Modifié le 23 mars 2018 par Deres

[Gibbs le Cajun]

@ascromis

@Deres

Ils sont fou ces indonésiens  . 

[xav]

Indonesian Navy gets new CN235-220 MPA, AS565 Mbe ASW helicopters

The Aerospace company PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI) on January 24 handed over five AS565Mbe Panther ASW helicopters and one CN235-220 Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA) to the Indonesian Navy.

https://www.navalnews.com/news/2019/01/indonesian-navy-gets-new-cn235-220-mpa-as565-mbe-asw-helicopters/

[xav]

Indonesian Navy Commissions its 4th KCR-60M – PT Pal Cuts Steel for 2 More

The Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) commissioned its fourth KCR-60M (Kapal Cepat Rudal 60 Meter) fast attack craft (FAC) on July 27, 2019. On August 2nd, PT PAL cut steel for two more vessels.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/08/indonesian-navy-commissions-its-4th-kcr-60m-pt-pal-cuts-steel-for-2-more/

[xav]

First Indonesian-Built Submarine to Soon Reinforce TNI AL Fleet

Indonesian National Armed Forces Joint Chief of Staff, Air Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto, declared this week that KRI Alugoro (405) will soon reinforce the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) fleet.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/08/first-indonesian-built-submarine-to-soon-reinforce-tni-al-fleet/

3 more on the way for a total of 6

[xav]

BAE Systems 57mm Gun Systems Selected for Indonesia’s New KCR-60M

The Indonesian Navy has selected BAE Systems’ Bofors 57 Mk3 naval gun system for the country’s KCR-60 fast-attack vessel program. The initial contracts with government-owned shipbuilder PT PAL Indonesia include four 57 Mk3 gun systems.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/08/bae-systems-57mm-gun-systems-selected-for-indonesias-new-kcr-60m/

[collectionneur]

Article du Centre d'études stratégiques de la Marine (française) :

Brève marine n°238 : La marine indonésienne de l'ère Jokowi : défis, moyens et perspectives

https://urlz.fr/eYBy?fbclid=IwAR0UaETx-RZ9NM6i5X4xYKGK2TRnV69c0a6W4BUvJIghKA2fHACHKxc1gRc

[herciv]

Exercice conjoint France Indonésie :

https://www.corlobe.tk/article47950.html : "Le sous-marin Emeraude et la frégate Vendémiaire participent à un exercice avec la marine indonésienne

[Banzinou]

Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut : naufrage du sous-marin KRI « Nanggala » (402) ?

https://lefauteuildecolbert.blogspot.com/2021/04/tentara-nasional-indonesia-angkatan.html

 

Un sous-marin disparaît

[Claudio Lopez]

il y a une heure, Banzinou a dit :

Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut : naufrage du sous-marin KRI « Nanggala » (402) ?

https://lefauteuildecolbert.blogspot.com/2021/04/tentara-nasional-indonesia-angkatan.html

 

Un sous-marin disparaît

Indonésie: Un sous-marin avec 53 personnes à bord disparaît au large de Bali (latribune.fr)

53 sous mariniers qui ont probablement disparus 

Terrible pour les familles qui attendent dans l'angoisse . Hélas, il y a rarement eu des dénouements heureux dans ce type de disparition ..

[herciv]

il y a 51 minutes, Claudio Lopez a dit :

Indonésie: Un sous-marin avec 53 personnes à bord disparaît au large de Bali (latribune.fr)

53 sous mariniers qui ont probablement disparus 

Terrible pour les familles qui attendent dans l'angoisse . Hélas, il y a rarement eu des dénouements heureux dans ce type de disparition ..

Non mais surtout il faudrait connaître les circonstances...

il y a 4 minutes, herciv a dit :

Non mais surtout il faudrait connaître les circonstances...

A l'équipage : rip

[Lordtemplar]

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/04/indonesian-navy-submarine-kri-nanggala-reported-missing/

Lors d'un exercise de tir des torpilles

[teck71]

encore un type 209 ,comme le sous marin argentin.

un défaut dans la série?

ça n'était pas le snorchel la théorie des argentins pour le leur?

[LBP]

Il y a 19 heures, teck71 a dit :

encore un type 209 ,comme le sous marin argentin.

un défaut dans la série?

ça n'était pas le snorchel la théorie des argentins pour le leur?

ou une mauvaise rencontre avec un sous-marins ? chinois ?.

Modifié le 22 avril 2021 par LBP

[Lordtemplar]

Question bete, mais comment fait on pour detecter une soum furtif qui ne bouge pas?  Drone avec camera?

[Bon Plan]

il y a 28 minutes, Lordtemplar a dit :

Question bete, mais comment fait on pour detecter une soum furtif qui ne bouge pas?  Drone avec camera?

un sonar actif à un moment donné le détectera (si le soum reste discret, sans bouger et n'ouvre pas une porte de TLT pour lancer une anguille).

La furtivité et discrétion ne fait que réduire la distance de détection, il ne l'annule pas.

[Hirondelle]

Il y a 21 heures, teck71 a dit :

encore un type 209 ,comme le sous marin argentin.

un défaut dans la série?

ça n'était pas le snorchel la théorie des argentins pour le leur?

Ils sont surtout très nombreux (58 en service actif !) et souvent âgés (mis en service entre 1971 et 2008).

[ARMEN56]

Le 21/04/2021 à 21:06, teck71 a dit :

encore un type 209 ,comme le sous marin argentin.

un défaut dans la série?

ça n'était pas le snorchel la théorie des argentins pour le leur?

C'est pas tout à fait les mêmes , l'argentin c'était un dérivé U209/TR1700, celui ci c'est un U209/1300  avec des MTU (12V493 AZ80)  coque en acier HY80 je crois

enfin c'est bien triste

RIP

[Vince88370]

L'épave du sous marin a été localisé sur les fond marin au large de Bali. Le sous marin c'est brisé en 3 parties.

[g4lly]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/indonesia-missing-submarine-sank-debris-found-kri-nanggala-14685170

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Missing Indonesian submarine has sunk, objects recovered: Military chief

BALI: All 53 crew members on board a sunken Indonesian submarine have been confirmed dead, with debris of the vessel found, said Indonesia's military chief on Sunday (Apr 25). 

Air Chief Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto said search teams had received "visual images" which have been confirmed as parts of the KRI Nanggala 402 submarine, such as the rear vertical rudder, anchors and the outside of the pressure body. 

"... Based on authentic evidence we state that KRI Nanggala 402 has sunk and all of the crew members have died.

"Therefore, with deep sadness, as the commander, I declare that 53 KRI Nanggala 402 personnel have died," said ACM Tjahjanto at a press conference in Bali.

SUBMARINE ESCAPE SUIT FOUND

The military showed what it said was a submarine escape suit found by search teams. Navy chief Admiral Yudo Margono said the suit would normally be stored in an "emergency box". He suggested that someone had perhaps taken the suit out of the box but did not manage to wear it.

At least 25 Indonesian ships have been involved in the search for KRI Nanggala 402. Ships from other countries have also been sent. Among them is Singapore's MV Swift Rescue, which arrived early on Sunday.

Adm Margono said the MV Swift Rescue's Remotely Operated Underwater Vehicle (ROV) was deployed at 7am. At around 9am, it obtained visual images of the submarine at a depth of 850m.

"The KRI Nanggala is divided into three parts, the hull of the ship, the stern of the ship, and the main parts are all separated, with the main part found cracked," he said.

Investigations are under way for the cause of the sinking but the navy chief told reporters he ruled out human error, saying that the correct procedures were in place when the submarine dove.

An attempt will be made to lift the submarine but because of the rarity of such an operation, he said the military had yet to determine how it would do it.

 

MV Swift Rescue leaving Changi Naval Base to join the search operations off Bali. (Photo: Facebook/Ng Eng Hen)

The Indonesian submarine went missing on Wednesday while taking part in a torpedo drill in north Bali waters. 

The military earlier assumed that the submarine experienced a power outage. In that condition, the submarine could have run out of oxygen by 3am on Saturday.

 

Indonesian Navy submarine KRI Nanggala sails in the waters off Tuban, East Java, Indonesia, as seen in this aerial photo taken from Indonesian Navy helicopter of 400 Air Squadron, in this Oct 6, 2014 photo. (Photo: AP/Eric Ireng)

READ: 'We can only pray', says mother-in-law of sailor on missing Indonesian submarine

In a statement on Sunday, President Joko Widodo said: "This tragedy shocked us all. Not only the families of the 53 crew members and the navy, but also the entire Indonesia people."

"We all, the people of Indonesia, would like to convey our sadness ... especially to the families. They are the best sons of Indonesia, the best patriots."

 

[Hirondelle]

il y a 38 minutes, Vince88370 a dit :

L'épave du sous marin a été localisé sur les fond marin au large de Bali. Le sous marin c'est brisé en 3 parties.

Il y a mention d’une profondeur ?

[g4lly]

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BALI: There is evidence that the missing Indonesian KRI Nanggala 402 submarine has sunk, while objects have been recovered, said military chief Hadi Tjahjanto on Saturday (Apr 24). 

Speaking at a press conference, he said: “The navy has found oil spill and parts of objects which is evidence that the KRI Nanggala has sunk.” 

Navy chief Yudo Margono added: "Over the past few days, we've recovered debris and items from the last location that the submarine was diving." 

"(The items) would not have come outside the submarine if there was no external pressure or without damage to its torpedo launcher."

He showed reporters some of the objects that have been recovered, including part of a torpedo, part of a praying mat and grease. 

Several Indonesian officials, including Finance Minister Sri Mulyani Indrawait, posted condolences to the families on social media.

A submarine part that was manufactured in South Korea was also recovered, said Admiral Margono. The KRI Nanggala 402 underwent a retrofit in South Korea in 2012.

He said that a scan has detected what might be the submarine at 850m. The vessel is built to withstand a depth of up to 500m. 

“Because it is at the depth of 850m, it is very risky and very difficult for an ROV (remotely operated underwater vehicle) … to lift it,” the navy chief added.

Authorities believe that the missing KRI Nanggala 402 has sunk. They showed objects believed to be related to the vessel such as part of a torpedo, grease and praying mat. pic.twitter.com/YQxSff3JI2

— Kiki Siregar (@KikiSiregarCNA) April 24, 2021

READ: ‘We can only pray’, says mother-in-law of sailor on missing Indonesian submarine

READ: In race to find missing Indonesian submarine, carbon dioxide may be the enemy

The KRI Nanggala 402 submarine went missing on Wednesday with 53 people on board when taking part in a torpedo drill in north Bali waters. Contact with the vessel was lost at 4.30am local time, after it asked for permission to dive at 3am. 

A total of 49 crew members, one ship commander and three weapons specialists were on board the submarine, the defence ministry had said.

The military assumed that the submarine experienced a power outage. In that condition, the submarine could have run out of oxygen by 3am on Saturday.

If there is no power blackout, the oxygen can last for five days, said the navy chief on Saturday.

At least 25 Indonesian ships have joined the search. More ships from other countries, including Singapore’s MV Swift Rescue will also be involved. 

During the Saturday press conference, the Indonesian navy chief noted that the ROV on MV Swift Rescue can operate at the depth of up to 1,000m. 

 

[ARMEN56]

Dans mes cartons U209 est donné pour ;

- une Immersion max de 300 m

- une Immersion  de destruction de 500 m

 

Modifié le 25 avril 2021 par ARMEN56

[Henri K.]

Le 21/04/2021 à 19:22, Claudio Lopez a dit :

Indonésie: Un sous-marin avec 53 personnes à bord disparaît au large de Bali (latribune.fr)

53 sous mariniers qui ont probablement disparus 

Terrible pour les familles qui attendent dans l'angoisse . Hélas, il y a rarement eu des dénouements heureux dans ce type de disparition ..

La marine chinoise a failli perdre un 636 il y a quelques années. Les sous mariniers ont enchaîné des manoeuvres pendant 20 minutes pour éviter le pire si ma mémoire est bonne.

Henri K.