Futur Missile Antinavire/Futur Missile de Croisière (FMAN/FMC, FC/ASW)

[Kamelot]

il y a une heure, hadriel a dit :

Ca va décupler les capacités antinavire française, puisque tous nos MdC aéroportés pourront les frapper. Plus qu'à ajouter le même autodirecteur au MdCN et on aura constitué une capacité énorme pour pas cher!

La possibilité d'utiliser vecteurs et briques techniques pour des moyens terrestres est grande pour la très longue portée (2000 km).

[g4lly]

Il y a 8 heures, hadriel a dit :

Ca va décupler les capacités antinavire française, puisque tous nos MdC aéroportés pourront les frapper. Plus qu'à ajouter le même autodirecteur au MdCN et on aura constitué une capacité énorme pour pas cher!

Il va falloir attendre le détail des autodirecteurs quand même...

Les missile terrestres on plutôt un guidage optronique.

Les missiles anti-navires plutôt un guidage radar même s'il existe des modèle avec de l'optronique a la place.

Je doute que ce soit du multimode ... C'est cher est rare sauf pour des mode léger additionnel comme du SALH en plus d'un mode principal.

Actuellement l'Exocet permet de taper des cibles terrestre par exemple, sur coordonnées via GNSS même si c'est pas forcément optimal.

Et techniquement rien n'empêcherait le Scalp EG de voir un navire avec son auto directeur infrarouge donc de le viser... Même si c'est pas forcément optimal.

[Titus K]

 FC/ASW: DEEP STRIKE CRITICAL TO EUROPE’S SOVEREIGNTY

https://www.mbda-systems.com/2024/11/06/fcasw-deep-strike-critical-europes-sovereignty/

 

Current events continue to underline that sovereign deep strike capabilities are of critical importance to European nations. MBDA was created to develop Europe’s deep strike capabilities over two decades ago – and those MBDA-made systems continue to prove of utmost military utility on battlefield and as a conventional deterrent. Today MBDA is working on the next generation of European deep strike systems, with the Future Cruise / Anti-Ship Weapon (FC/ASW) at the fore.

Today’s context has seen both the return of high intensity conflict to Europe and demonstrated the increased density of air defence systems both on the front-line and in-depth. It has shown that to overcome these, armed forces will have to deploy a range of resources embedding disruptive technologies, sometimes in combination, to fulfil their mission. With FC/ASW, MBDA is leveraging the full strength of its co-operative multi-national DNA to shape the future of sovereign deep strike capabilities for anti-ship and surface strike missions for the next decade and beyond.

Given the strategic importance of deep strike, the FC/ASW project has been set a very aggressive schedule by launch partners France and the UK. To deliver on this MBDA has mobilised over 750 dedicated technical experts across the UK and France on the FC/ASW programme.

MBDA’s experts are working at rapid pace developing two different and complementary missiles that represent the absolute cutting edge of deep strike capabilities: an ultra-low observable subsonic missile, and a supersonic highly-manoeuvrable missile.

Importantly the FC/ASW project is progressing rapidly and is on schedule to complete its assessment / risk-reduction phase. This phase focuses on reducing technical risks and increasing the maturity of the key technologies for FC/ASW, the missiles’ sub-systems and wider weapon systems. In parallel, Italy has joined the effort to enable a smooth convergence towards a tri-lateral programme in the near future.

Maturing such a large portfolio of technologies in such a short amount of time has required a massive effort between the nations, and has again demonstrated the value of the MBDA model that gathers funding and technologies to deliver the sovereign capabilities that European Countries require.

This progress has seen MBDA’s experts already successfully complete a series of critical test milestones across all critical elements of the FC/ASW missiles.

The first prototype ultra-low observable missile has already been manufactured and extensive RF-signature testing conducted upon it in a dedicated RF signature testing facility. Exhaustive supersonic wind-tunnel testing has also been completed on the supersonic missile’s propulsion system at MBDA’s facility in Bourges. Test results have been highly impressive, displaying MBDA’s position at the forefront of world missile technologies.

Other trials completed across both missiles include tests on their advanced seekers, tests of the missiles’ warheads and fuzing systems, aerodynamic trials and other engine testing.

These successes demonstrate very significant progress in the programme, and MBDA experts continue to work at pace to conclude further trials ahead of the next phases of the programme. These are anticipated to see Italy complete its convergence into the FC/ASW project, and the launch of tri-nation demonstration and manufacture phases to ensure Europe’s leading militaries receive this critical new sovereign deep strike capability as soon as possible.

[hadriel]

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/mbda-details-its-deep-strike-current-and-future-capabilities

Citation

While the turbojet for the TP 15 is being developed by Rolls-Royce and Safran Power Units, which jointly signed an Assessment Phase contract with MBDA in July 2022, EDR On-Line understood that the ramjet for the RJ 10 is being developed by Bayern-Chemie, the Centre of Competence for propulsion systems within MBDA which developed and is producing ramjets for the Meteor beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile. “For the RJ 10 it is a question to fly long enough at very high supersonic speed and to have the possibility also to modulate the thrust, so the missile can accelerate in flight when required,” Belleau explains. The first engines were produced and tested in a 100 metres long facility. When the missile will manoeuvre at very high supersonic speed in the final attack phase it will need to modulate the thrust, and this will also be possible during the cruise phase, MBDA explained.

Some tests on the seeker were also made. The RJ 10 will feature a radiofrequency seeker, while the TR 15 will have an imaging infrared one. Both seekers will be based on next-generation technology. Talking about the RF Seeker, “MBDA Italy will definitely be a key element in its development, the Fusaro Centre of Competence having developed such an AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) multimode seeker for the Teseo Mk2/E missile which first launch was performed in mid-October 2024,” Franco Donfrancesco, National Sales Business Development Director at MBDA Italia stated. The RJ 10 is being designed mainly to attack ships, to perform SEAD/DEAD missions, destroying enemy radars hence weakening its air defences, and it will also have a capability against high value airborne assets (HVAAs), such as AWACS, tankers, etc, at super long distances. As for the TP 15, it is mostly aimed against ground targets, such as military depots, headquarters, reinforced concrete facilities, while maintaining antiship as a secondary mission. Although nothing was said about warheads, this should mean they will be pretty different. That said, both missiles maintain a considerable flexibility.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Super article, seul imprécision : le ramjet est franco-français et conçu à Bourges, par le même bureau qui a fait celui de l'ASMP.

[hadriel]

Je me disais aussi que c'était bizarre leur version.

[Patrick]

Il y a 3 heures, hadriel a dit :

Talking about the RF Seeker, “MBDA Italy will definitely be a key element in its development, the Fusaro Centre of Competence having developed such an AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) multimode seeker for the Teseo Mk2/E missile which first launch was performed in mid-October 2024,” Franco Donfrancesco, National Sales Business Development Director at MBDA Italia stated.

D'où sortent ces affirmations?

[Kamelot]

Coup d'oeil sur la presse étrangère.

https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/mbda-propels-system-testing-on-future-cruise-and-anti-ship-missiles/160637.article

https://armyrecognition.com/news/aerospace-news/2024/euronaval-2024-mbda-strengthens-european-deep-strike-capability-with-fc-asw-program

À terme, sur des bases communes chaque pays (France, Royaume-uni, Italie...) pourrait introduire des éléments techniques qui lui sont propres, en fonction de leurs usages et intérêts industriels. MBDA est suffisamment "européen" pour le rendre possible...

De même, certains éléments pourront servir en transverse pour des applications diverses et multimilieux.

De nombreux articles et communiqués sont à prévoir, à l'avenir...

[Titus K]

il y a 23 minutes, Kamelot a dit :

À terme, sur des bases communes chaque pays (France, Royaume-uni, Italie...) pourrait introduire des éléments techniques qui lui sont propres, en fonction de leurs usages et intérêts industriels. MBDA est suffisamment "européen" pour le rendre possible...

C'est une supposition de ta part ? 

[Bechar06]

Vents contraires ? 

https://www.challenges.fr/entreprise/defense/fman-fmc-menace-sur-les-futurs-missiles-de-mbda_911003

"Le programme FMAN-FMC vise à développer, en coopération franco-britannico-italienne, des missiles de croisière et antinavires, successeurs des Scalp, Exocet et Harpoon. Mais ce projet, le plus ambitieux de l’histoire de MBDA, connaît des vents contraires ces derniers mois."  

Ah bon ??