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C'est pas une ANF1 sur l'image ?
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Le Frag kit 6 va quand meme etre déployé sur le parc de Humvee ... Donc plusieurs chose, une protection contre les EFP, c'est les grosse caisse sur les porte, ca pese 490kg/m2 ... Des charniere de porte avec assistance électrique - en haut - les porte étant tellement lourde que sinon on peut pas les ouvrir, et un pare brise avant escamotable comme sortie de secours. Accessoirement on retrouve le meme blindage épais sur les dernier MRAP lourd. http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/05/13/21023-ria-jmtc-rolls-out-first-frag-kit-6/ The Rock Island Arsenal Joint Manufacturing and Technology Center rolled out the newest armor kit to protect our warfighters May 8. The Fragmentation Kit Six or FRAG Kit 6, is the latest armor protection set for the Army's M1151 HMMWV. The new kit boasts a number of improvements that are crucial to protecting the Soldier in the battlefield. "One of the major differences is the boxes on the door," said Mike DeWitte, Production Unit Leader for Armor. "These boxes place more armor between Soldiers and projectiles. " The new kit also boasts several safety enhancements as well. The kit comes with a Vehicle Emergency Egress Window. "Adding the VEE window to the kit will allow Soldiers another way to exit the vehicle," Program Manager for the FRAG Kit 6, Phil Snyder said. "This window will help save lives." RIA-JMTC has an order for more than 1,000 kits. In 2006, the arsenal produced over 6,000 FRAG 5 kits in a six-month time frame. The RIA-JMTC commander expressed his confidence in the workforce to deliver this crucial kit to those at the tip of the spear. "This is a fine team and I'm very proud to serve with them," said RIA-JMTC Commander Col. Craig S. Cotter. "We all know this is a very serious business and we take it seriously. Our Soldiers are counting on us to do the best here." The program manager for Tactical Vehicles echoed the importance of the kits that Rock Island was producing. "The FRAG Kit 6 stretches humvee survivability to a new limit," said Program Manager for Tactical Vehicles, Col. Scott Kidd. "It is a limit that is highly necessary to a threat that we face today." Also on hand for the roll out ceremony was Master Sgt. Jeffrey Mittman. Mittman was wounded by an improvised explosive device on July 7, 2005, while assisting an Iraqi Public Order Brigade in Central Baghdad as a member of the Special Police Transition Team. Since that day, he has worked to recover from the injuries he sustained. Mittman has seen the soft-skinned HMMWV used in Operation Desert Storm evolve to an armor platform that has saved countless lives and allowed warfighters to carry out critical missions today. "Right here at Rock Island, you are producing the FRAG Kit 6, which is designed to defeat the specific weapon that hit me," said Mittman. "That FRAG Kit 6 will save lives on the battlefield." As the first kits roll off the production line, the leaders and workforce know the importance of the mission that lie before them. "Somewhere on a barren mountain top or filthy back alley somewhere our enemies are lying in wait. I will tell you that FRAG Kit 6 will give our Soldiers an edge. Enabling them to meet and defeat our enemies and come home safely to this land we love so much," said Cotter.
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La loi du MRAP version sudaf ... 700 fois ... c'est la masse du vehicule capable d'encaisser sans dommage pour les passager la charge d'explosif.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=atO_TXRwbWvU Britain’s War Costs in Iraq and Afghanistan Triple July 2 (Bloomberg) -- The annual cost of U.K. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan has more than tripled in the last four years as the extra troops deployed to fight the Taliban outweighed the drawdown of Britain’s presence in Basra. Total spending for both wars will reach 4.37 billion pounds ($7.15 billion) in the current fiscal year, which ends in March 2010, compared with 1.56 in the year ended March 2006, according to Ministry of Defense figures published by the House of Commons Defense Committee. The cost of the wars will slip 3.2 percent from a high of 4.52 billion in the year through March. “There is no likelihood that the cost for operations in Afghanistan will fall over the short to medium term,” said James Arbuthnot, a lawmaker from the Conservative opposition who leads the panel comprised of members from all parties. The costs of the war are adding to the strain on the Treasury, which expects to sell a record 220 billion pounds of gilts this year to finance Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s spending. With the government budget deficit projected to top 12.4 percent of gross domestic product this year, the most in the Group of Seven nations, both Brown’s Labour Party and the Conservatives are saying they’ll have to keep a lid on spending in the future. Cuts Ahead The defense ministry will have to cut spending by up to 15 percent, or about 6 billion pounds a year, as the government imposes “a period of prolonged austerity” on state services, according to Malcolm Chalmers, who wrote a paper on the issue for the Royal United Services Institute. The military consultant says the government will have to impose a “radical scaling-down” of the war effort in Afghanistan and cuts to major procurement programs. It said the F-35 fighter program and orders for aircraft carriers, Trident nuclear missile submarines and future surface ships are vulnerable. Eurofighter orders are too far along to be affected, the report said. Britain is the second-largest contributor of foreign troops in Afghanistan, with 8,300 stationed in Helmand province. Peak involvement in Iraq came in 2003, with 46,000 troops stationed in the south of the country. Afghanistan Costs The panel estimated the Afghanistan war cost at 3.5 billion pounds in the current fiscal year, up from 2.6 billion pounds last year and 199 million pounds in 2005. In Iraq, the U.K. expects to spend 877 million pounds in the current year. It’s finishing the troop withdrawal this month. Last year it spent 1.96 billion pounds, up from 957 million pounds in 2005. The Defense Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the spending and administration of the Ministry of Defense. The report published in London today gives Parliament for the first time the chance to examine figures for operations in both countries. The panel recommended that lawmakers approve the department’s 39.7 billion-pound budget.
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En fait les FOB sont pleine d'afghan ... des militaires des policiers et aussi plein de civils qui viennent bosser a la construction et a l'aménagement ainsi que pour livrer de la bouffe etc. Il est tres facile pour eux de donner des infos via GSM sur les mouvements au sein de la base. Il est pas super évident d'identifier qui appel meme avec du matériel d'écoute, ca grouille une FOB, donc a part prendre le mec en flag le téléphone a l'oreille ... Quant a la destination de l'appel c'est essentiellement des numéro de GSM au Pakistan dans des zone peut controlé et donc la pareil peut de chance d'attraper le correspondant en flag. Le matériel d'écoute GSM est peut disponible la bas meme s'il y en a qui tourne ... et les FOB passe souvent de longue semaine certaine d'etre surveillée de l'intérieur mais sans moyen d'intercepter in situ. Pour les raison qui pousse a espionner ... l'argent, les convictions, ou la menace ...
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[Afghanistan] Archive
g4lly a répondu à un(e) sujet de jeanmi dans Politique etrangère / Relations internationales
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i0xBv8YQwWSZqAQgjd42RCvU1uEAD9973HEO0 Russia to allow US arms shipments to Afghanistan MOSCOW (AP) — Russia said Friday it will allow the United States to ship weapons across its territory to Afghanistan, a long-sought move that bolsters U.S. military operations but potentially gives the Kremlin leverage over critical American supplies. The announcement by a top Kremlin aide came ahead of President Barack Obama's visit to Moscow next week, when the deal is expected to be signed. Russia has been allowing the United States to ship non-lethal supplies across its territory for operations in Afghanistan, and Kremlin officials had suggested further cooperation was likely. Kremlin foreign policy adviser Sergei Prikhodko told reporters Friday that the expected deal would enable the U.S. to ship lethal cargo and would include shipments by air and land. He said it was unclear if U.S. soldiers or other personnel would be permitted to travel through Russian territory or airspace. "They haven't asked us for it," he said. The normal supply route to landlocked Afghanistan via Pakistan has come under repeated Taliban attack, and the U.S. and NATO have been eager to have an alternate overland supply route through Russia and the Central Asian countries. Confirmation of such a deal appeared aimed at setting a constructive tone for the meetings between Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Monday and Tuesday. After years of increasing strain, both governments have expressed hope the summit will put ties between the former Cold War rivals back on track. Military analyst Alexander Golts, however, said the U.S. should be under no illusion about Russia's intentions. Although Medvedev has set a warmer tone in relations with the West, his predecessor, Vladimir Putin, retains considerable power as prime minister. "The least impression you should get from this is that Putin's foreign policy style foresees gestures of goodwill," Golts said. The Russian leadership still has the mindset of "19th-century Realpolitik" and seeks the ability to hold its partners "by the throat," he said. "If something goes wrong in Russian-U.S. relations, this transit will cease as quickly and suddenly as it started," Golts said. While Russia has stressed a willingness to work with the West to bring stability to Afghanistan, it has shown that it can use its clout in the former Soviet republics of Central Asia to hobble U.S. efforts. Russia was seen as the instigator of Kyrgyzstan's decision earlier this year to evict the United States from an air base used to ship military hardware and troops to Afghanistan. The decision was reversed only after the U.S. agreed to pay three times the price. No comment was immediately available from the Pentagon on Friday, a federal holiday. The expected deal would be the first time Russia has allowed U.S. military shipments through its territory during the Afghan campaign, said Fyodor Lukyanov, editor of Russia in Global Affairs magazine. "This may actually be the first time they will do this since World War II," he said. Serious rifts remain over other defense issues. The U.S. and Russia want to forge a nuclear arms reduction agreement to replace the 1991 START treaty, which expires in December. But talks on a new treaty are complicated by Russia's push for the U.S. to scrap the previous administration's plans for missile defense facilities in Eastern Europe. The U.S. says missile interceptors based in Poland and a related radar in the Czech Republic — if built — would be aimed to counter a potential Iranian threat and would not threaten Russia. Russia rejects those arguments and says the facilities would be aimed to weaken Russia's nuclear deterrent. Prikhodko said Medvedev and Obama are expected to sign a declaration of understanding that would set out guidelines for a new arms reduction treaty and would likely include specific target numbers. He insisted that plans for further nuclear arms cuts and a possible U.S. missile shield in Europe are inextricably linked and that Russia wants the Obama administration to acknowledge that. U.S. officials have rejected Russia's argument that cuts in offensive weapons must be linked with U.S. plans for missile defense. "We would like the interconnection between START and missile defense to be described" in the declaration signed at the summit," he said. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's spokesman also said that the two issues are interconnected and indicated Russia's leaders would repeat their arguments in meetings with Obama, who is to hold talks with Putin as well as Medvedev. -
EXCLUSIF : La gendarmerie revient à Saint-Dominique Les gendarmes vont assurer la sécurisation de l'ilôt Saint-Dominique, après en avoir été exclus, au profit d'une société privée, Onet. Jusqu'à 60 gendarmes de l'Air, provenant essentiellement de la base aérienne 117 de Balard, seront déployés dans les semaines qui viennent, pour assurer le filtrage et l'intégrité du site, qui héberge notamment l'Etat-major des Armées (EMA). Ils devraient, en plus, assurer la sécurité de la résidence du CEMA, à l'Ecole militaire. Au passage, l'armée de l'Air pourrait décrocher le commandement militaire de l'îlot (COMILI), actuellement détenu par l'armée de Terre. Paradoxe, les gendarmes de l'Air arrivent à Saint-Dominique, quelques mois seulement après le départ des... gendarmes mobiles, dont Hervé Morin avait estimé qu'ils étaient trop nombreux, dans la place. Et sans doute plus utiles ailleurs, d'autant plus qu'à l'époque, la gendarmerie pliait bagage pour l'Intérieur. L'évolution du dispositif semblait logique. Au final, c'est donc le filtrage tout entier qui avait été externalisé, avec, apparemment, quelques insatisfactions, aux motifs très variés. Autre paradoxe, un tel système, assuré par une société privée, va être adopté en septembre, à Balard. Précisément l'endroit d'où viennent les gendarmes de l'Air. Et qui en 2014, accueillera le Balardgone. Le joies de l'externalisation a la con ...
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Je suppose que si tu leur demandes gentiment ils t'ammenage un fourgon tolé a la place du pickup ... juste que le projet M-ATV réclame un plateau pour des modules a l'arriere, et que visiblement l'armée US souhaite continuer a patrouiller a 5 par vehicule.
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Ouaip mais avec deux moteur alors les Aravis :lol: L'objectif du M-ATV est simple ... un vrai gros MRAP ... mais avec des réelle capacité tout terrain et une masse contenu pour les chemins type Afghanistan. D'ou ca super rapidement et en grand volume ! Donc oshkosh - qui s'est fait virer de JLTV - a réchauffé ses plat ... le chassis de camion tactique 4x4 MTVR un grand classique de l'armée US, et dessus une cabine issue de leur défunt projet JLTV. Il on confié le blindage a des spécialiste "plasan US" etc. L'équipement est ultra complet radio, navigation, camera, éclairage 360°, et le plateau arriere dispo pour acceuillir des modules missions plug & pley machin de la mort qui tue. Le MTVR ... c'est ca ...
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Hum ... le début est vrai au moins ;)
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Des Rafales pardi !
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;) Je colle quelques snapshot
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Ptit nouveau sur le marché.
g4lly a répondu à un(e) sujet de Philippe Top-Force dans Hélicoptères militaires
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Hélicoptères d'attaques légers ?
g4lly a répondu à un(e) sujet de littleboy dans Hélicoptères militaires
Moi j'aime bien le principe bon a tout bon a rien des gunship/HM léger/moyen, c'était un peu le principe du black hawk, en un chouilla plus lourd, mais avec les techno qui évolue on doit arriver a la meme charge utilie dans 7t maintenant, ou pas loin. Dans les engagement qu'on a dorénavant en l'absence de déferlantes blindées venues de l'est je pense que c'est une bonne solution polyvalente, pour peut que l'armement soit facilement déposable remontable, et que le cout d'usage reste raisonnable. <mode calor calor> Avec un double 40CTA coaxial - pour l'équilibre :lol: - , deux panier de 4 "spike ER" et un petit 20mm de sabord :) Les marin on peut leur troquer le lot de 4 Spike contre un MarteMk2 ... mais ca oblige a mettre un radar. </calor> -
Euh ... l'imagerie radar n'a rien de nouveau meme si la techno AESA la rend plus accessible.
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L'objectif est d'armer les Panther ... les NH90ASM porte bien leur nom, meme s'ils sont concu aussi pour ASuW ils risquent d'etre monopolisé par l'ASW vu leur nombre réduit. D'ou mon "projet" EC-175 ... destiné a l'ASuW ... qui pourrait emporter du plus lourd que le Panther, dont toute la panoplie d'armement héliporté en simple ou meme en double. D'ailleurs en pratique les frégate grées avec du NH90ASM disposeront de Block3 ... alors qu'une partie des frégate grée avec le panther ne l'auront pas ... d'ou l'ANL. Enfin j'ai compris comme ca. L'ANL c'est du vraiment léger ... on parle de nettement moins de 200kg. MarteMk2/S c'est 325kg chaque ... En dehors de ca j'ai rien contre le missile ... au contraire mais je doute que ce soit dans les projets.
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celui la http://www.kenpo-france.com/index.php?page=103
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Euh il n'est pas question d'équiper nos NH90 ASM de Marte Mk2 ... du moins les spec proposé pour l'ANL sont assez loin de ca, aussi bien niveau masse que guidage. Je remet le lien vu qu'il y a d'autre détail dedans Une version Mk2/ER devrait etre développé avec un turboreacteur pour une meilleure autonomie. De plus une version Mk2/S-A va s'ajouter a la gamme pour équiper les voilure fixes légeres, M-346 entre autres. http://frontierindia.net/aermacchi-m-346-may-get-marte-mk2-s-a-and-marte-er-anti-ship-missiles
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Il est en service sur les SH-3D et aussi sur les EH101 visiblement. http://frontierindia.net/aermacchi-m-346-may-get-marte-mk2-s-a-and-marte-er-anti-ship-missiles Delivery of MARTE MK2/S for the Italian Navy took place between 2007 and 2008 for installation onboard its AW.101 and NH-90 helicopters. Integration and qualification has been completed on both the AW.101 and the NH-90.
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http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=99716§ionid=351020201 An unmanned surveillance aircraft has gone down on the outskirts of al-Kut city in the southern Iraqi province of Wasit which borders Iran. A local police source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Voices of Iraq news agency that the drone crashed on Friday close to the Delta Base of American forces. The base is situated seven kilometers (5 miles) west of al-Kut. Unmanned US drones on a regular basis venture the Iraqi air space to apparently track down insurgents and also save American lives in conflict-plagued Iraq. Pentagon officials say that these remotely piloted planes have become one of the US military's favorite weapons despite many technical shortcomings resulting from the rush to get them operating. American Air Force officials acknowledge that more than a third of their unmanned Predator spy planes which are 27 feet long, powered by a high-performance snowmobile engine, and cost 4.5 million dollars apiece have crashed, mostly in Iraq and Afghanistan. MP/MMA
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[Afghanistan] Archive
g4lly a répondu à un(e) sujet de jeanmi dans Politique etrangère / Relations internationales
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6633094.ece Faced with a rising death toll from roadside bombs, the United States has sent almost 12,000 new combat vehicles to its frontline troops in just under two years. Britain has managed to deliver only 235, which is fewer than promised. The difference in the efficiency and scale of the US and British response to this threat reveals a shortfall that is costing lives. It also exposes the lack of resources available to the Ministry of Defence. The British military deployment is, admittedly, only a fraction of the US commitment; Britain allocates 10 per cent of the defence budget to fighting the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq whereas the US figure is about 40 per cent. For Britain it is more a case of “stiff upper lip, let’s get through it”, according to one former US officer. By contrast, US spending to develop and deploy a bomb-proofed vehicle quickly to protect its troops was almost unlimited. “I always had every dollar I needed to go do the things that needed to be done to make the MRAP programme successful,” John Young, the US Under-Secretary of Defence for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, said this year. He was referring to the mine-resistant, ambush-protected (MRAP) vehicle that has been rolling off production lines in the United States since the spring of 2007 when it was designated a priority item for forces in Iraq who were suffering heavy casualties in their less well protected Humvees. The Pentagon then delivered more than 11,700 vehicles across the US Central Command area of operations, which includes Iraq and Afghanistan, within 22 months. Iraq received 10,000 of these, but with the focus now shifting to Afghanistan, the US awarded a £650 million contract this week for 2,244 specially adapted MRAP vehicles for use in the country. The huge building programme was the Pentagon’s response to the heavy criticism that it endured in the early years of the Iraq campaign for the inadequacies of the more lightly armoured Humvee. It took two or three years to put in place an efficient procurement programme to respond to commanders’ needs on the ground. However, once production was under way the speed of delivery was outstanding. “It’s amazing, something that was done so quickly involving so many vehicles,” said the former US officer. “It was quite impressive. As soon as they [MRAPs] rolled off the production line they were shipped.” As with the Humvees, Britain came under pressure to offer a better defence for its troops, who were dying in lightly armoured Snatch Land Rovers. The Government said last year that it had sent 108 Mastiff vehicles — the British equivalent of an MRAP — to frontline Forces and would deliver another 174 by “mid summer”. To date, however, only 127 have been received. The Ministry of Defence admitted to “minor delays” on the delivery of Mastiff 2s, which comprised ambulance and enhanced communications vehicles. “This is due to the complex integration process required for these vehicles,” it said. “Deliveries will continue throughout the year.” Liam Fox, the Shadow Defence Secretary, feels that the Government is failing its military. “Why is it that other countries are able to give their armed forces what they need, when they need it and where they need it, but under the current Government we are unable to do the same?” -
[Afghanistan] Archive
g4lly a répondu à un(e) sujet de jeanmi dans Politique etrangère / Relations internationales
http://www.france24.com/en/20090704-us-military-afghanistan-two-killed-fighting-clashes-surge-offensive AFP - Two US soldiers and at least 22 militants died in fighting in eastern Afghanistan Saturday, as Marines battling in the south pressed one of their biggest assaults of the eight-year war. The US military said two American soldiers were killed and another four wounded in an explosion in the eastern province of Paktika, which borders Pakistan and where government troops are locked in battles with militants. "There was an explosion, a possible IED (improvised-explosive device), in Paktika province this morning in which two US service members were killed," said military spokesman Sergeant Charles Marsh. "Then the base came under random fire by insurgents. We do have two US service members killed and four wounded," said Marsh. Air support was then called in against rebels, he said. The slain soldiers were operating under the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force, the alliance said later in a statement, adding that they had died in a bomb explosion. The interior ministry in Kabul said 22 rebels were killed in that incident, without mentioning the US casualties, in line with policy. However, Hamidullah Zhwak, a spokesman for the local Afghan administration, put the militants' death toll at 32. Zhwak said the US casualties were caused when Taliban insurgents blew up a fuel tanker in front of a local government building in the district of Zirok. "After the blast, American helicopters came in and attacked the Taliban who were preparing to attack the district headquarters," he said. "Thirty-two Taliban were killed," Zhwak said, adding that 32 dead bodies were recovered after a two-hour battle erupted between armed militants and US helicopter gunships following the initial explosion. Eight other militants were injured and captured by troops, Zhwak said. When contacted by AFP the US military, however, was not able to confirm the militants' casualties immediately. The Taliban later claimed responsibility for what it described as a two-pronged attack in which five militants died, excluding a suicide bomber. "Today Hafiz Omar carried out a suicide attack with 8,000 kilos of explosives in a (fuel) tanker on an American base... in Zirok," Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahed told AFP. "At the same time 100 mujahedin (holy fighters) attacked the base just after the explosion... Americans suffered heavy casualties and we lost five of our fighters," the spokesman said. Paktika is one of the most troubled regions in the east where thousands of foreign, mainly US forces are battling a resurgent Taliban, who were evicted from power in Afghanistan by the 2001 US-led invasion. The insurgency aims to topple the US-backed government of President Hamid Karzai and has this year reached its deadliest. US President Barack Obama has made Afghanistan the centre-piece of his foreign policy, dispatching an extra 21,000 American troops as part of a sweeping new war plan to stabilise the country. Nearly 4,000 Marines and 600 Afghan forces are pressing a massive operation in the southern province of Helmand, in a pivotal test for the new strategy and to protect the local population ahead of presidential polls on August 20. So far only one US Marine has been reported killed in the offensive, which the US commanding officer said was becoming a "hell of a fight" Friday. "We don't have any casualties. The enemy had, but we don't have figures," the Afghan defence ministry said in a short statement on Saturday. The 1/5 Infantry Battalion met only light resistance in their push south and had already been able to meet locals at shuras (councils), Brigadier General Larry Nicholson said, speaking to a convoy with which AFP was travelling. But "for 2/8 there is a hell of a fight going on in the southern quarter of the sector," the top Marine said on arrival at Garmsir, a town along the Helmand River that was a key objective for Operation Khanjar. Commanders said they would persuade locals that the Afghan security forces -- backed by Western troops -- offered them a better long-term future than the fundamentalist Taliban militia as Afghanistan braces for elections next month. Taliban spokesman Yousuf Ahmadi told AFP the group had not started directly fighting against the US Marine and a separate British operation under way for two weeks north of the provincial capital Lashkar Gah. Militants had planted mines on various roads to meet the troops and some vehicles had been blown up, causing several casualties, he said. Linked to the insurgency, two Afghan soldiers were killed when a roadside bomb struck their vehicle in Musa Qala, a former Taliban stronghold in Helmand on Friday, the defence ministry said. The ministry blamed the bomb blast on the enemies of Afghanistan, a phrase reffered to the Taliban. -
C'est pas le PL127 ... c'est un modele spécifique plus bas mais plus large visiblement, je crois qu'il est destiné a de la 7.62 plutot qu'a la 12.7 [dailymotion=600,380]x9ouys[/dailymotion] i
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/30/bushmaster-acr-coming-late-this-year-maybe/ Bushmaster ACR coming late this year … maybe Sean forwarded me an email he received from the Customer Service Manager at Magpul. [glow=#ccc,10,300]The Magpul Masada design has been licensed to Bushmaster Firearms and they are handling production and distribution. It’s been renamed the ACR and was officially scheduled for release in the first Quarter of 2009. However, Bushmaster/Remington plans on offering up the ACR for the M4 replacement solicitation. This is necessitating some possible small design changes (barrel life requirements, rail markings, position of full-auto safety, etc.) to meet certain mil-specs along with much more scrutiny in the testing process. Unfortunately this will most likely delay the release an undetermined amount of time but we are hoping it will be unveiled sometime late this year with a retail of around $1500.[/glow] Many dates have been given out in the past for the launch of the Magpul / Bushmaster / Remington ACR so don’t pin your hopes on having a ACR under the Christmas tree! The price seems reasonable. Many thanks to Sean for the info.
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Pas les modele HAP ... seul les HAD auront des désignateur pour guider les Hellfire