Joab

Je crois pas que ce soit le fric qui manque aux militaires algériens. Mais comme les russes sont un peu à la traine en surveillance persistante, ils n'ont pas trop le choix si on exclut américains et israéliens evidement, il ne reste que les turcs et les plus probablement les sud africains dont le MALE est encore en developpement.

Encore faut il que l'armée malienne le conserve si/quand le France ne sera plus là.

Même sur la question raciale, il y a une grande différence entre le régime fasciste et le régime nazi, le régime fasciste était très nationaliste, expansionniste, xénophobe mais la superiorité du peuple italien était selon Mussolini culturelle et non biologique, et "l'italianité" pouvait selon lui assimiler d'autres peuples, on est loin de la pureté de la race aryenne (ça ne veut pas dire que les stéréotypes largement répandus sur l'inferiorité des Noirs par exemple n'existaient pas chez les fascistes). Et sur l'antisémitisme, la première loi antisémite date de 38, plus de vingt ans après l'accession des fascistes au pouvoir et probablement sous l'influence de l'alliance avec l'Allemagne.

Grounding of world's two most advanced aircraft could spell trouble for Israeli aviation Israel Air Force has ordered 20 F-35 Lightning II, which have now been grounded due to technical problems; meanwhile, the grounding of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner may cause El Al to prefer Airbuses for the first time. The announcement Saturday by the Pentagon that it was grounding all F-35 fighter jets due to a crack found in one of the engine blades, has led to an unprecedented situation: The two central projects of the world's largest aircraft manufacturers, Boeing and Lockheed Martin, are suspended indefinitely. The next strike aircraft to serve three branches of the U.S. military, the most ambitious and expensive weapons system in history and the Boeing 787 Dreamliner (the most advanced airliner of a generation) are now officially in crisis mode, and hemorrhaging hundreds of millions. A question mark now looms over aerospace innovation in the 21st century, which could also throw a spanner into the plans of Israel's Air Force and the national airliner, El Al. The F-35 Lightning II is a stealth fighter designed to evade enemy radar, and which is built in three versions: A land-based aircraft for the U.S. Air Force, a carrier-based fighter for the U.S. Navy and a vertical take-off and landing tactical bomber for the smaller Marine Corps carriers. This is the first time that one platform has been developed for all three services - and in addition, the Pentagon has specified a wide range of operational requirements, including stealth and the ability to carry out strike and air-defense missions as well as electronic-warfare and intelligence-gathering. This ambitious combination of capabilities in one aircraft of limited size - due to the constraints of the "stealthy" aerodynamic shape - has caused a series of significant delays in the development program and astronomic budget overruns. The F-35 is currently seven years overdue its original development goals, and the cost of 2,443 fighters needed by the U.S. armed forces to replace rapidly aging fighters it is now assessed to be nearly 400 billion dollars - 70 percent higher than the original budget. Saturday's decision to ground the 64 F-35s that have already flown as part of the development and pilot-training programs is the fourth such grounding. The development of the plane, which first flew six years ago, has been fraught with major problems, including cracks in the bulkheads, software glitches and engine worries. It's already clear that whenever the F-35 enters operational service, it will still lack a significant portion of its electronic and weapons systems which will be installed over years. The current obstacle - a cracked engine blade - puts into question one of the key decisions taken during the development program – to rely on only one engine manufacturer, Pratt and Whitney, instead of two alternative sources. The decision to save funds may now cause a very expensive delay. The halt in flight-tests while new aircraft continue rolling off the mile-long assembly line in Fort Worth is also a serious worry for the Israeli Air Force, which has ordered twenty F-35s and plan to order an additional two squadrons. The IAF urgently needs these fighters to replace early-model F-16s that have to be withdrawn from service in the next few years and a further delay may leave a gap in its inventory. Meanwhile, at another giant factory 3,500 kilometers away, north of Seattle, Lockheed Martin's competitor, Boeing, is seeking additional parking space around the assembly line of its newest airliner, the Boeing 787, which is also grounded until further notice. In 2001, Boeing lost the competition to build the new strike fighter, but its core business has always been building civilian passenger jets. The Boeing 787 was going to be its new flagship, returning it to the position of global dominance lost in the last few years to the European Airbus, which has now surpassed Boeing in the number of planes ordered by airlines worldwide. The 787 can fly up to 290 passengers, travel at faster speeds than any of its competitors and uses 20 percent less fuel. On the outside, the 787 doesn't seem different from other airliners, but its manufacturing is radically different. It is the first airliners constructed mainly from composite materials, rather than metal; many of the hydraulic systems have been replaced by electronic ones, making the plane lighter and more fuel-efficient. But the new methods have made Boeing reliant on thousands of suppliers, not all of which are used to complying with the stringent standards and timetables of the aerospace industry. Supply problems caused the first aircraft to be "overweight" and delayed supply to the first customer, Japanese airliner ANA, by three years. Despite the delays, until a month ago, the 787 was still considered a success story and Boeing and already accumulated 844 orders as new airliners came out of the Seattle plant and were delivered to customers. The picture, however, changed as technical problems added up, well above the level acceptable for a new aircraft. The mishaps were mainly to do with the fuel and electrical systems, and despite Boeing executives' promises that these were merely "teething problems," two incidents of in-flight fire, occurring on consecutive says in Japanese 787s and forcing emergency evacuation lead to the decision to ground all fifty planes flying so far worldwide. The fires were caused by new lithium-ion batteries which seem to be unexpectedly flammable, and Boeing engineers are scrambling to find solutions. Meanwhile, the planes are grounded and as another new 787 is rolled out each week, parking space around the Seattle field is growing scarce. The delays could also change El Al's fleet plans. So far, Israel's national airline was planning to acquire the 787 to replace its aging 747s and 767s though an order had yet to be placed. For over four decades, El Al has bought only Boeing planes, but the question mark now over the 787 may bring the company to order Airbuses for the first time. These two ambitious projects, the F-35 and Boeing 787, are "too big to fail." The problems will eventually be solved, as alternatives are nowhere to be found and hundreds of billions have already been invested in both of them. But once they return to the skies, it is highly doubtful that airplane manufacturers will be brave enough to allow themselves such a technological gamble in the foreseeable future. Anshel Pfeffer

Article sur la structure de l'armée israélienne, taillée pour une nouvelle guerre de Kippur qui n'aura presque certainement jamais lieu. The IDF - too big to assail The IDF is too big and too well equipped with expensive weapons that were developed to counter threats that are no longer relevant. The word from within the Israel Defense Forces is that cutting the defense budget is dangerous, as it will drastically hinder readiness to deal with increasing threats. But even a superficial review of the figures shows that it is possible - essential, even - to trim the defense budget, and doing so will have no influence on the IDF’s ability to deal with future threats. The main problem arising from an examination of the IDF, and its future plans, is the disconnect existing between the IDF’s current structure and deployment to the developments and events occurring in our corner of the world. Take, for example, the Armored Corps. According to figures from the Institute for National Security Studies, the IDF currently operates over 3,100 tanks and 8,000 armored personnel carriers. About 1,600 of those tanks were made over 30 years ago, and about 220 are almost 50 years old. Also, more than a few of those armored personnel carriers were purchased by the IDF many decades ago. Even within the IDF, the consensus is that this enormous reserve of tanks will have no role to play in a future war within our borders. The tank-to-tank fighting that characterized the Six-Day and Yom Kippur wars is no longer relevant. The Syrian army is eroding away, and is no longer a force that needs to be considered. Over the next few years, the Egyptian army will be largely occupied by internal troubles, and the chances that Egypt will launch a war against Israel are less than negligible. Even if Egypt decides to start a war, their tanks would have to cross the whole of the Sinai Peninsula - in that scenario, the slowly advancing tank convoys could easily be destroyed from the air. The Iraqi army has not been a threat for years, and the “eastern front” - that the IDF has been deployed against for over two decades, with thousands of tanks - is fading away. There is, therefore, no justification for the costly upkeep of thousands of tanks, and the future acquisition of many more expensive ones. Why is it continuing? Largely because there is almost no supervision and critique of the IDF’s upper echelons. Like every army in the world, the IDF strives to arm itself with the most advanced weapons systems available. In other nations, however, elected officials manage to supervise and limit their armies’ lust for new equipment. This does not happen in Israel. The Knesset, which is supposed to govern the IDF, ignores this responsibility of theirs. Thus, the IDF is solely responsible for the structure of its army, its equipment, size, and operational deployment. The Centurion tanks, ready to celebrate their 50th birthday, are just one example. Aside from the fact that the IDF is preparing for wars that almost certainly won’t happen, it is also investing a great deal of resources in combating a large number of threats on every level - regardless of the chances of those threats materializing. The IDF has decided that, if there is a threat, it will plan to counter it. The result of that stance is a huge defense budget, growing every year. The threats facing Israel have drastically changed over the last 20 years, and the IDF will need to deal with two primary threats in the foreseeable future: guerrilla and terror tactics; and missile and rocket fire. The chances of another war against the armies from neighboring states have all but disappeared, but that has not stopped the IDF from building up its strength to face scenarios like the Yom Kippur War. The result is that, today, the IDF is too big and too well equipped with expensive weapons systems that were developed to answer threats that even military intelligence shows are very unlikely to materialize. Reuven Pedatzur

OK, et concrètement, quelle est la composition? Merci. Si je comprend, ce sont grosso mode des compagnies d'infantrie avec des elements d'artillerie et de génie.

Excusez mon ignorance (je sais, après tant de temps sur un forum français, c'est inexcusable ;)) mais GTIA, c'est juste un bataillon c'est ça?

Ce qui me choque, c'est même pas que la France refuse de le considérer comme une organisation terroriste après l'attentat de Bulgarie, c'est qu'elle ne l'ait pas fait après le Drakkar et les otages français. Pour ce qui est de l'action militaire, je rappelle qu'Israël possède l'arme nucléaire, qu'une majorité de la population vit à moins de 30 km de la Cisjordanie (nos "interets vitaux" risquent d'etre gravement menacés par une intervention étrangère en Cisjordanie) et surtout, avec quel alliés locaux est ce que ça se ferait? Le Hezbollah? Les frères musulmans egyptiens? L'Iran? Assad? Le Hamas? En somme, que des types qui tiennent à la sacro sainte ligne verte.

Une question, je ne connais pas bien la géopolitique du sous continent, comment sont les relations entre Inde et Bengladesh? Plutot alliés?

Je suppose que les hindous et les sikhs de la diaspora ne sont pas tous citoyens indiens un peu comme les Juifs de la diaspora ne sont pas citoyens israéliens. Une conscription à l'israélienne dans un pays d'un milliard, j'ai du mal à imaginer. A mon avis, face au Pakistan, le vrai défi de l'armée indienne est de mobiliser et de se déployer suffisamment rapidement à la frontière, sachant que les unités pakistanaises devront parcourir une distance beaucoup moins longue pour atteindre la dite frontière. L'enjeu est de réduire au maximum voir d'annuler le laps de temps durant lequel le Pakistan est susceptible d'avoir la superiorité numérique. C'est quasiment l'inverse du problème auquel est confronté Israel.

Pourquoi, les hindous ne font pas suffisamment l'armée?

Sept syriens blessés dans des affrontement à la frontière avec le Golan sont soignés à l'hopital de Tzfat en Galilée.

Pas stérilisées, ça remonte à 30 ans, et ça n'a pas le moindre rapport avec leur couleur (c'est aussi arrivé à des "blancs" venus du tiers monde comme elles) et par ailleurs, on avait des soupsons depuis longtemps déja, c'est pas un scoop. L'affaire de ce prisonnier "australien" est actuelle. On ne sait absolument pas ce qu'il a fait, ni le cadre légal (s'il existe) de ces détentions. Et puis, ce n'est pas juste la détention ou le suicide, c'est l'ordre de censure totalement ridicule.

Je me demande ce que ce type a pu faire d'aussi grave pour en arriver là. Sa propre famille n'a pas voulu collaborer avec les media, je suppose qu'elle doit etre au courant.

En un mot: Saturation.

L'appareil est italien?

C'était plus le sentiment d'appartenance à une collectivité qu'on pourrait appeler "le peuple Juif" que la pratique religieuse qui est le point commun de tous ceux qui sont "montés" en Israel. Pour le "long terme", on pourrait parler d'un demi succès pour le cas de l'immigration des séfarades/orientaux et même pour les russes, pour les éthiopiens par contre malheureusement, c'est un echec et maintenant que certains les confondent avec des immigrés clandestins d'Afrique Noir, ça va pas arranger les choses.

Les laïques ashkénazes avaient déjà entamé leur transition démographique dans leurs pays de provenance. Les ultra orthodoxes par contre, ils faisaient et continuent à faire un tas de gosses mais eux, c'est une contre société et on pensait à l'époque qu'elle allait disparaitre. On n'a pas vraiment cherché les intégrer. Par contre, les immigrés, on a cherché à les intégrer à la "vrai" société israélienne, c'est à dire aux yeux des dirigeants de l'époque, la société ashkénaze laïque.

Si tu lis l'hébreu, je peux te donner des liens. Disons qu'à l'époque, on trouvait que pour que les réfugiés soient intégrés à la société, il valais mieux qu'il n'y ait pas sept gamins par foyer comme dans les pays d'origine. La logique n'était pas tout à fait irréaliste, mais la manière dont ça a été implémenté est scandaleuse. Il aurait fallu se contenter de prévention et de pédagogie, quitte à ce que ça ne marche pas. Par ailleurs, la politique générale d'intégration des immigrés/réfugiés était foireuse pour d'autres raisons. OK, je retire ce que j'ai dit.

Aussi scandaleuse que cette histoire ait pu etre, d'ailleurs il y aurait eu des cas similaires dans les camps de réfugiés pour les Juifs du monde arabe, en quoi est ce que ça regarde la politique étrangère d'Israël ou le conflit avec les voisins?

Les EAU ont fourni leur c-17 non?

Heu... quoi?

Effectivement, dans la religion musulmane dans le cas du "martyr", les rituels funéraires n'existent plus, il suffit juste d'enterrer le corps le plus rapidement possible après son décès.

Certains disent que le centre a été bombardé parce qu'il risquait de tomber entre les mains de l'opposition armée, pas parce que le régime s'appretait à utiliser des armes biologiques. Moué, bof. Je te rappelle que selon ces media, "la défense aérienne syrienne a repoussé l'attaque sur la centrale coréennne".